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title: Daniel 8:13 (JPS 1917) — Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto tha… · tree and pragmatics
description: Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spoke: 'How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that causes appalment, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?' Who acts: I, holy one, 
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# Daniel 8:13 · JPS 1917

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Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spoke: 'How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that causes appalment, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?'

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**Who acts:** I, holy one, transgression · **What happens:** hear, speak, say, be, burn, cause · **To what, where:** holy one, vision, appalment, sanctuary, foot · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Daniel 8:13 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (I, holy one, transgression), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:DAN:250
# text = Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spoke: 'How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that causes appalment, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?'
1	Then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	3	advmod	_	_
2	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	heard	hear	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	holy	holy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	one	one	NUM	CD	Number=Sing|NumType=Card	3	obj	_	_
7	speaking	speak	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	6	acl	_	_
8	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	13	punct	_	_
9	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	13	cc	_	_
10	another	another	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	12	det	_	_
11	holy	holy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	12	amod	_	_
12	one	one	NUM	CD	Number=Sing|NumType=Card	13	nsubj	_	_
13	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	conj	_	_
14	unto	unto	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
15	that	that	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	17	det	_	_
16	certain	certain	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	17	amod	_	_
17	one	one	NUM	CD	Number=Sing|NumType=Card	13	obl	_	_
18	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	19	nsubj	_	_
19	spoke	speak	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	17	acl:relcl	_	_
20	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	27	punct	_	_
21	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	27	punct	_	_
22	How	how	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	23	advmod	_	_
23	long	long	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	27	advmod	_	_
24	shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	27	aux	_	_
25	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	27	cop	_	_
26	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	27	det	_	_
27	vision	vision	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	ccomp	_	_
28	concerning	concern	ADP	IN	_	33	case	_	_
29	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	33	det	_	_
30	continual	continual	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	33	amod	_	_
31	burnt	burn	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	33	amod	_	_
32	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	31	punct	_	_
33	offering	offering	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	nmod	_	_
34	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	37	punct	_	_
35	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	37	cc	_	_
36	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	37	det	_	_
37	transgression	transgression	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	33	conj	_	_
38	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	39	nsubj	_	_
39	causes	cause	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	37	acl:relcl	_	_
40	appalment	appalment	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	39	obj	_	_
41	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	43	punct	_	_
42	to	to	PART	TO	_	43	mark	_	_
43	give	give	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	39	advcl	_	_
44	both	both	CCONJ	CC	_	46	cc:preconj	_	_
45	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	46	det	_	_
46	sanctuary	sanctuary	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	43	obj	_	_
47	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	49	cc	_	_
48	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	49	det	_	_
49	host	host	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	46	conj	_	_
50	to	to	PART	TO	_	52	mark	_	_
51	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	52	aux:pass	_	_
52	trampled	trample	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	43	xcomp	_	_
53	under	under	ADP	IN	_	54	case	_	_
54	foot	foot	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	52	obl	_	_
55	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	13	punct	_	_
56	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	13	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: wh-question
- act: ask
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **hear** | past | I | a holy one |  |  | then |  | vn see-30.1-1-1 «NP V S»: agent=Experiencer one=Stimulus |
| 2 | **speak** *speech: other* | gerund |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | another holy one |  |  |  |  | unto that certain one | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 4 | **speak** *speech: other* | past |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 5 | **is a** | shall |  | the vision |  |  |  | concern the continual burnt offering and the transgression; long *property* | tree rules |
| 6 | **burn** | participle |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn light\_emission-43.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 7 | **cause** | present | the transgression | appalment |  |  |  |  | vn engender-27.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Precondition appalment=Patient |
| 8 | **give** | to-infinitive | the transgression *not said here* | the sanctuary and the host |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 9 | **trample** | to-infinitive · passive | the transgression *not said here* |  |  | foot |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וָאֶשְׁמְעָ֥ה אֶֽחָד־קָד֖וֹשׁ מְדַבֵּ֑ר וַיֹּאמֶר֩ אֶחָ֨ד קָד֜וֹשׁ לַפַּֽלְמוֹנִ֣י הַֽמְדַבֵּ֗ר עַד־מָתַ֞י הֶחָז֤וֹן הַתָּמִיד֙ וְהַפֶּ֣שַׁע שֹׁמֵ֔ם תֵּ֛ת וְקֹ֥דֶשׁ וְצָבָ֖א מִרְמָֽס׃

[Daniel 8:13: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/DAN.8.13/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:DAN:250` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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