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title: Ecclesiastes 1:11 (JPS 1917) — There is no remembrance of them of former times; neither shall there… · tree and pragmatics
description: There is no remembrance of them of former times; neither shall there be any remembrance of them of latter times that are to come, among those that shall come after. Who acts: remembrance, latter times. Ecclesiastes 1:11 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Ecclesiastes 1:11 · JPS 1917

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There is no remembrance of them of former times; neither shall there be any remembrance of them of latter times that are to come, among those that shall come after.

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**Who acts:** remembrance, latter times · **What happens:** be, come, remember · **To what, where:** things

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This is Ecclesiastes 1:11 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (remembrance, latter times), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:ECC:10
# text = There is no remembrance of them of former times; neither shall there be any remembrance of them of latter times that are to come, among those that shall come after.
1	There	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	2	expl	_	_
2	is	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	4	det	_	_
4	remembrance	remembrance	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
5	of	of	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
6	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nmod	_	_
7	of	of	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
8	former	former	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	amod	_	_
9	times	time	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nmod	_	_
10	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	14	punct	_	_
11	neither	neither	CCONJ	CC	Polarity=Neg	14	cc	_	_
12	shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	14	aux	_	_
13	there	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	14	expl	_	_
14	be	be	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	parataxis	_	_
15	any	any	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	16	det	_	_
16	remembrance	remembrance	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	nsubj	_	_
17	of	of	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	16	nmod	_	_
19	of	of	ADP	IN	_	21	case	_	_
20	latter	latter	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	21	amod	_	_
21	times	time	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	16	nmod	_	_
22	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	25	nsubj	_	_
23	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	25	cop	_	_
24	to	to	PART	TO	_	25	mark	_	_
25	come	come	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	21	acl:relcl	_	_
26	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	28	punct	_	_
27	among	among	ADP	IN	_	28	case	_	_
28	those	that	PRON	DT	Number=Plur|PronType=Dem	25	obl	_	_
29	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	31	nsubj	_	_
30	shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	31	aux	_	_
31	come	come	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	28	acl:relcl	_	_
32	after	after	ADV	RB	_	31	advmod	_	_
33	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | present | no remembrance of things of former times |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **be** | shall | any remembrance of things of latter times |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 3 | **is** | present | latter times |  |  |  | among latter times | come *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **come** | shall |  |  |  |  |  | after *property* | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 5 | **remember** |  |  | things *= thing* |  |  |  |  | nom remembrance «cognition transitive»: of=patient |
| 6 | **remember** |  |  | things *= thing* |  |  |  |  | nom remembrance «cognition transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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אֵ֥ין זִכְר֖וֹן לָרִאשֹׁנִ֑ים וְגַ֨ם לָאַחֲרֹנִ֜ים שֶׁיִּהְי֗וּ לֹֽא־יִהְיֶ֤ה לָהֶם֙ זִכָּר֔וֹן עִ֥ם שֶׁיִּהְי֖וּ לָאַחֲרֹנָֽה׃פ

[Ecclesiastes 1:11: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and the Targum →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/ECC.1.11/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:ECC:10` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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