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title: Ecclesiastes 2:16 (JPS 1917) — For of the wise man, even as of the fool, there is no remembrance fo… · tree and pragmatics
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# Ecclesiastes 2:16 · JPS 1917, sentence 1 of 2

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For of the wise man, even as of the fool, there is no remembrance for ever; seeing that in the days to come all will long ago have been forgotten.

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**Who acts:** remembrance · **What happens:** be, see, come, forget · **To what, where:** all · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Ecclesiastes 2:16 · JPS 1917, sentence 1 of 2 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (remembrance), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:ECC:34
# text = For of the wise man, even as of the fool, there is no remembrance for ever; seeing that in the days to come all will long ago have been forgotten.
1	For	for	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
2	of	of	ADP	IN	_	1	fixed	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	wise	wise	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
5	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obl	_	_
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	5	punct	_	_
7	even	even	ADV	RB	_	11	advmod	_	_
8	as	as	ADP	IN	ExtPos=ADP	11	case	_	_
9	of	of	ADP	IN	_	8	fixed	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	fool	fool	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nmod	_	_
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
13	there	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	14	expl	_	_
14	is	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
15	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	16	det	_	_
16	remembrance	remembrance	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	nsubj	_	_
17	for	for	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	ever	ever	ADV	RB	PronType=Ind	16	obl	_	_
19	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	20	punct	_	_
20	seeing	see	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	14	advcl	_	_
21	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	33	mark	_	_
22	in	in	ADP	IN	_	24	case	_	_
23	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	24	det	_	_
24	days	day	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	33	obl	_	_
25	to	to	PART	TO	_	26	mark	_	_
26	come	come	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	24	acl	_	_
27	all	all	PRON	DT	PronType=Tot	33	nsubj:pass	_	_
28	will	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	33	aux	_	_
29	long	long	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	30	advmod	_	_
30	ago	ago	ADV	RB	_	33	advmod	_	_
31	have	have	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	aux	_	_
32	been	be	AUX	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	33	aux:pass	_	_
33	forgotten	forget	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	20	ccomp	_	_
34	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	14	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | present | no remembrance |  |  | there |  | for the wise man as the fool | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **see** | gerund | no remembrance *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Experiencer clause=Stimulus |
| 3 | **come** | to-infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 4 | **forget** | future · perfect · passive |  | all |  |  | day | ago *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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כִּי֩ אֵ֨ין זִכְר֧וֹן לֶחָכָ֛ם עִֽם־הַכְּסִ֖יל לְעוֹלָ֑ם בְּשֶׁכְּבָ֞ר הַיָּמִ֤ים הַבָּאִים֙ הַכֹּ֣ל נִשְׁכָּ֔ח וְאֵ֛יךְ יָמ֥וּת הֶחָכָ֖ם עִֽם־הַכְּסִֽיל׃

[Ecclesiastes 2:16: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and the Targum →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/ECC.2.16/)

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This verse in JPS 1917:

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1. **For of the wise man, even as of the fool, there is no remembrance for ever; seeing that in the days to come all will long ago have been forgotten.**
2. [And how must the wise man die even as the fool!](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/jps/ECC.35/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:ECC:34` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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