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title: Job 8:8 (JPS 1917) — For inquire, I pray thee, of the former generation, and apply thysel… · tree and pragmatics
description: For inquire, I pray thee, of the former generation, and apply thyself to that which their fathers have searched out — Who acts: I, fathers. Job 8:8 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Job 8:8 · JPS 1917

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For inquire, I pray thee, of the former generation, and apply thyself to that which their fathers have searched out —

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**Who acts:** I, fathers · **What happens:** inquire, pray, apply, search out · **To what, where:** thee, thyself

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This is Job 8:8 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (I, fathers), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JOB:182
# text = For inquire, I pray thee, of the former generation, and apply thyself to that which their fathers have searched out —
1	For	for	SCONJ	IN	_	2	mark	_	_
2	inquire	inquire	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	csubj	_	_
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
4	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
5	pray	pray	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	thee	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	5	obj	_	_
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
8	of	of	ADP	IN	_	11	case	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
10	former	former	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	amod	_	_
11	generation	generation	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obl	_	_
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	14	punct	_	_
13	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	14	cc	_	_
14	apply	apply	VERB	VBP	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	5	conj	_	_
15	thyself	thyself	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes|Style=Arch	14	obj	_	_
16	to	to	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
17	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	14	obl	_	_
18	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	22	obj	_	_
19	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	20	nmod:poss	_	_
20	fathers	father	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	22	nsubj	_	_
21	have	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	22	aux	_	_
22	searched	search	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	17	acl:relcl	_	_
23	out	out	ADP	RP	_	22	compound:prt	_	_
24	—	-	PUNCT	:	_	5	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **inquire** *speech: other* | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **pray** | present | I | thee |  |  | of the former generation |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **apply** | present | I *not said here* | thyself |  |  |  | to that | vn use-105.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent thyself=Theme |
| 4 | **search out** | present · perfect | children's fathers |  |  |  |  |  | vn search-35.2 «NP V NP PP.theme»: agent=Agent which=Location |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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כִּֽי־שְׁאַל־נָ֭א לְדֹ֣ר רִישׁ֑וֹן וְ֝כוֹנֵ֗ן לְחֵ֣קֶר אֲבוֹתָֽם׃

[Job 8:8: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and the Targum →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/JOB.8.8/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JOB:182` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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