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title: Job 15:3 (JPS 1917) — Should he reason with unprofitable talk, or with speeches wherewith… · tree and pragmatics
description: Should he reason with unprofitable talk, or with speeches wherewith he can do no good? Who acts: man. Job 15:3 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Job 15:3 · JPS 1917

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Should he reason with unprofitable talk, or with speeches wherewith he can do no good?

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**Who acts:** man · **What happens:** reason, do · **To what, where:** good

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This is Job 15:3 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (man), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JOB:366
# text = Should he reason with unprofitable talk, or with speeches wherewith he can do no good?
1	Should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	3	aux	_	_
2	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	reason	reason	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
4	with	with	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
5	unprofitable	unprofitable	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	talk	talk	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obl	_	_
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	10	cc	_	_
9	with	with	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
10	speeches	speech	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	obl	_	_
11	wherewith	wherewith	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	14	advmod	_	_
12	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	14	nsubj	_	_
13	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	14	aux	_	_
14	do	do	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	10	acl:relcl	_	_
15	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	16	det	_	_
16	good	good	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obj	_	_
17	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: yes/no question
- act: ask
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed voice=character

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **reason** | should | man |  |  |  |  | with unprofitable talk; with speeches | vn deduce-97.2 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **do** | can | man | no good |  |  |  | wherewith *property* | vn act-114-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent good=Eventuality |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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הוֹכֵ֣חַ בְּ֭דָבָר לֹ֣א יִסְכּ֑וֹן וּ֝מִלִּ֗ים לֹא־יוֹעִ֥יל בָּֽם׃

[Job 15:3: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and the Targum →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/JOB.15.3/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JOB:366` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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