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title: Job 15:10 (JPS 1917) — With us are both the gray-headed and the very aged men, much older t… · tree and pragmatics
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# Job 15:10 · JPS 1917

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With us are both the gray-headed and the very aged men, much older than thy father.

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**What happens:** be · **To what, where:** headed aged men

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This is Job 15:10 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JOB:376
# text = With us are both the gray-headed and the very aged men, much older than thy father.
1	With	with	ADP	IN	_	2	case	_	_
2	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	13	obl	_	_
3	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	cop	_	_
4	both	both	CCONJ	CC	_	8	cc:preconj	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
6	gray	gray	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	amod	_	_
7	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	6	punct	_	_
8	headed	head	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	amod	_	_
9	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	12	cc	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
11	very	very	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
12	aged	aged	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	13	amod	_	_
13	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	0	root	_	_
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	16	punct	_	_
15	much	much	ADV	RB	_	16	advmod	_	_
16	older	old	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	13	amod	_	_
17	than	than	ADP	IN	_	19	case	_	_
18	thy	thy	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	19	nmod:poss	_	_
19	father	father	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	16	obl	_	_
20	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	13	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present |  | the headed aged men |  |  |  | with us | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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גַּם־שָׂ֣ב גַּם־יָשִׁ֣ישׁ בָּ֑נוּ כַּבִּ֖יר מֵאָבִ֣יךָ יָמִֽים׃

[Job 15:10: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and the Targum →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/ketuvim/JOB.15.10/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JOB:376` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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