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title: Joel 2:17 — Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch a… · Hebrew, tree and pragmatics
description: Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?' Who acts: priests, natio
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# Joel 2:17 יוֹאֵל

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**Who acts:** priests, nations, people · **What happens:** let, weep, say, spare, not give, reproach · **To what, where:** people, heritage, God · **Speech:** someone speaks in this verse

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This is Joel 2:17 from Mova's open Bible corpus, the Tanakh in three languages (Nevi'im — the Prophets). The page gives the verse in Hebrew as the Westminster Leningrad Codex has it, its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, built from MACULA Hebrew — and its pragmatics: who acts — priests, nations, people — and what happens in the verse to people, heritage, God, read clause by clause by Mova's frames. Beside it stand the Aramaic of Targum Jonathan and the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, each English sentence with a tree of its own. It is one of the 4 chapters of Joel on this site, all built by Mova itself from its own trees, with no large model in between.

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בֵּ֤ין הָאוּלָם֙ וְלַמִּזְבֵּ֔חַ יִבְכּוּ֙ הַכֹּ֣הֲנִ֔ים מְשָׁרְתֵ֖י יְהוָ֑ה וְֽיֹאמְר֞וּ ח֧וּסָה יְהוָ֣ה עַל־עַמֶּ֗ךָ וְאַל־תִּתֵּ֨ן נַחֲלָתְךָ֤ לְחֶרְפָּה֙ לִמְשָׁל־בָּ֣ם גּוֹיִ֔ם לָ֚מָּה יֹאמְר֣וּ בָֽעַמִּ֔ים אַיֵּ֖ה אֱלֹהֵיהֶֽם׃

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[Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?'](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/jps/JOL.37/)

## The tree {#tree}

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Right to left, as the Hebrew is read; a prefix or suffix is a word of its own, and a line under the words joins those written as one. Under each word its part of speech and MACULA's English gloss.

```conllu rtl gloss
# sent_id = wlc:JOL:36
# text = בֵּ֤ין הָאוּלָם֙ וְלַמִּזְבֵּ֔חַ יִבְכּוּ֙ הַכֹּ֣הֲנִ֔ים מְשָׁרְתֵ֖י יְהוָ֑ה וְֽיֹאמְר֞וּ ח֧וּסָה יְהוָ֣ה עַל־עַמֶּ֗ךָ וְאַל־תִּתֵּ֨ן נַחֲלָתְךָ֤ לְחֶרְפָּה֙ לִמְשָׁל־בָּ֣ם גּוֹיִ֔ם לָ֚מָּה יֹאמְר֣וּ בָֽעַמִּ֔ים אַיֵּ֖ה אֱלֹהֵיהֶֽם׃
# verse = JOL.2.17
1	בֵּ֤ין	בֵּין	ADP	_	_	3	case	_	Gloss=between|Ref=JOL_2:17!1|MId=o290020170011|Strong=0996
2-3	הָאוּלָם֙	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
2	הָ	הַ	DET	_	PronType=Art	3	det	_	Gloss=the|Ref=JOL_2:17!2|MId=o290020170021|Strong=1886a|Type=definite_article
3	אוּלָם֙	אֵילָם	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Sing	8	obl	_	Gloss=porch|Ref=JOL_2:17!2|MId=o290020170022|Strong=0361
4-7	וְלַמִּזְבֵּ֔חַ	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
4	וְ	וְ	CCONJ	_	_	7	cc	_	Gloss=and|Ref=JOL_2:17!3|MId=o290020170031|Strong=2050b
5	לַ	לְ	ADP	_	_	7	case	_	Gloss=the|Ref=JOL_2:17!3|MId=o290020170032|Strong=3807a
6	ה	הַ	DET	_	PronType=Art	7	det	_	Gloss=|Ref=JOL_2:17!3|MId=o290020170032ה|Strong=1886a|Type=definite_article
7	מִּזְבֵּ֔חַ	מִזְבֵּחַ	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Sing	3	conj	_	Gloss=altar|Ref=JOL_2:17!3|MId=o290020170033|Strong=4196
8	יִבְכּוּ֙	בָּכָה	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=QAL|Number=Plur|Person=3	0	root	_	Gloss=let.them.weep|Ref=JOL_2:17!4|MId=o290020170041|Strong=1058|Frame=A0:290020170052;|Type=jussive
9-10	הַכֹּ֣הֲנִ֔ים	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
9	הַ	הַ	DET	_	PronType=Art	10	det	_	Gloss=the|Ref=JOL_2:17!5|MId=o290020170051|Strong=1886a|Type=definite_article
10	כֹּ֣הֲנִ֔ים	כֹּהֵן	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	Gloss=priests|Ref=JOL_2:17!5|MId=o290020170052|Strong=3548
11	מְשָׁרְתֵ֖י	שָׁרַת	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=PIEL|Number=Plur	10	appos	_	Gloss=[who].serve|Ref=JOL_2:17!6|MId=o290020170061|Strong=8334|Frame=A0:290020170052;A1:290020170071;|Type=participle_active
12	יְהוָ֑ה	יהוה	PROPN	_	_	11	compound:smixut	_	Gloss=(of).Yahweh|Ref=JOL_2:17!7|MId=o290020170071|Strong=3068
13-14	וְֽיֹאמְר֞וּ	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
13	וְֽ	וְ	CCONJ	_	_	14	cc	_	Gloss=and|Ref=JOL_2:17!8|MId=o290020170081|Strong=2050b
14	יֹאמְר֞וּ	אָמַר	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=QAL|Number=Plur|Person=3	8	conj	_	Gloss=let.them.say|Ref=JOL_2:17!8|MId=o290020170082|Strong=0559|Frame=A0:290020170052;|Type=yiqtol
15-16	ח֧וּסָה	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
15	ח֧וּס	חוּס	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=QAL|Number=Sing|Person=2	14	ccomp	_	Gloss=have|Ref=JOL_2:17!9|MId=o290020170091|Strong=2347|Frame=A0:290020170101;|Type=imperative
16	ָה	ה	X	_	_	15	nmod	_	Gloss=compassion|Ref=JOL_2:17!9|MId=o290020170092|Strong=1886j|Type=paragogic_he
17	יְהוָ֣ה	יהוה	PROPN	_	_	15	dislocated	_	Gloss=O.Yahweh|Ref=JOL_2:17!10|MId=o290020170101|Strong=3068
18	עַל־	עַל	ADP	_	_	19	case	_	Gloss=on|Ref=JOL_2:17!11|MId=o290020170111|Strong=5921|SpaceAfter=No
19-20	עַמֶּ֗ךָ	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
19	עַמּ	עַם	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Sing	15	obl	_	Gloss=people|Ref=JOL_2:17!12|MId=o290020170121|Strong=5971
20	ֶ֗ךָ	הוּא	PRON	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs	19	nmod:poss	_	Gloss=your|Ref=JOL_2:17!12|MId=o290020170122|Strong=3509b|Type=pronominal
21-22	וְאַל־	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
21	וְ	וְ	CCONJ	_	_	23	cc	_	Gloss=and|Ref=JOL_2:17!13|MId=o290020170131|Strong=2050b
22	אַל־	אַל	ADV	_	_	23	advmod	_	Gloss=do.not|Ref=JOL_2:17!13|MId=o290020170132|Strong=0408|Type=negative
23	תִּתֵּ֨ן	נָתַן	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=QAL|Number=Sing|Person=2	15	conj	_	Gloss=make|Ref=JOL_2:17!14|MId=o290020170141|Strong=5414|Frame=A0:290020170101;A1:290020170151;|Type=jussive
24-25	נַחֲלָתְךָ֤	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
24	נַחֲלָת	נַחֲלָה	NOUN	_	Gender=Fem|Number=Sing	23	obj	_	Gloss=inheritance|Ref=JOL_2:17!15|MId=o290020170151|Strong=5159
25	ְךָ֤	הוּא	PRON	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs	24	nmod:poss	_	Gloss=your|Ref=JOL_2:17!15|MId=o290020170152|Strong=3509b|Type=pronominal
26-27	לְחֶרְפָּה֙	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
26	לְ	לְ	ADP	_	_	27	case	_	Gloss=into|Ref=JOL_2:17!16|MId=o290020170161|Strong=3807a
27	חֶרְפָּה֙	חֶרְפָּה	NOUN	_	Gender=Fem|Number=Sing	23	obl	_	Gloss=a.reproach|Ref=JOL_2:17!16|MId=o290020170162|Strong=2781
28-29	לִמְשָׁל־	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
28	לִ	לְ	ADP	_	_	29	case	_	Gloss=to|Ref=JOL_2:17!17|MId=o290020170171|Strong=3807a
29	מְשָׁל־	מָשַׁל	VERB	_	HebBinyan=QAL	23	xcomp	_	Gloss=mock|Ref=JOL_2:17!17|MId=o290020170172|Strong=4912|Frame=A0:290020170191;|Type=infinitive_construct
30-31	בָּ֣ם	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
30	בּ	בְּ	ADP	_	_	31	case	_	Gloss=on|Ref=JOL_2:17!18|MId=o290020170181|Strong=0871a
31	ָ֣ם	הוּא	PRON	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	29	obl	_	Gloss=them|Ref=JOL_2:17!18|MId=o290020170182|Strong=3963a|Type=pronominal
32	גּוֹיִ֔ם	גּוֹי	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur	29	nsubj	_	Gloss=nations|Ref=JOL_2:17!19|MId=o290020170191|Strong=1471
33-34	לָ֚מָּה	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
33	לָ֚	לָמָה	ADP	_	_	34	case	_	Gloss=|Ref=JOL_2:17!20|MId=o290020170201|Strong=3807a
34	מָּה	מָה	PRON	_	PronType=Int	35	obl	_	Gloss=why?|Ref=JOL_2:17!20|MId=o290020170202|Strong=4100|Type=interrogative
35	יֹאמְר֣וּ	אָמַר	VERB	_	Gender=Masc|HebBinyan=QAL|Number=Plur|Person=3	15	parataxis	_	Gloss=will.people.say|Ref=JOL_2:17!21|MId=o290020170211|Strong=0559|Frame=A0:290020170191;A1:290020170231;|Type=yiqtol
36-38	בָֽעַמִּ֔ים	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
36	בָֽ	בְּ	ADP	_	_	38	case	_	Gloss=among|Ref=JOL_2:17!22|MId=o290020170221|Strong=0871a
37	ה	הַ	DET	_	PronType=Art	38	det	_	Gloss=the|Ref=JOL_2:17!22|MId=o290020170221ה|Strong=1886a|Type=definite_article
38	עַמִּ֔ים	עַם	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur	35	obl	_	Gloss=peoples|Ref=JOL_2:17!22|MId=o290020170222|Strong=5971
39	אַיֵּ֖ה	אַיֵּה	PART	_	_	35	ccomp	_	Gloss=where?|Ref=JOL_2:17!23|MId=o290020170231|Strong=0346|Type=interrogative
40-41	אֱלֹהֵיהֶֽם	_	_	_	_	_	_	_	_
40	אֱלֹהֵי	אֱלֹהִים	NOUN	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur	39	nsubj	_	Gloss=God|Ref=JOL_2:17!24|MId=o290020170241|Strong=0430
41	הֶֽם	הוּא	PRON	_	Gender=Masc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	40	nmod:poss	_	Gloss=[is].their|Ref=JOL_2:17!24|MId=o290020170242|Strong=3963a|Type=pronominal
42	׃	׃	PUNCT	_	_	41	punct	_	Ref=JOL_2:17!24
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: command
- act: request
- voice: character
- speech: a frame and its quote
- negation: yes
- the frame alone: decl · assert · none

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| verb | form · stem | who (A0) | what, whom (A1) | to whom, further (A2) | who makes it happen (AA) |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| יִבְכּוּ *let them weep* | jussive · qal | כֹּהֲנִים *priests* |  |  |  |
| מְשָׁרְתֵי *\[who\] serve* | participle active · piel | כֹּהֲנִים *priests* | יְהוָה *(of) Yahweh* |  |  |
| יֹאמְרוּ *let them say* | yiqtol · qal | כֹּהֲנִים *priests* |  |  |  |
| חוּס *have* | imperative · qal | יְהוָה *O Yahweh* |  |  |  |
| **not** תִּתֵּן *make* | jussive · qal | יְהוָה *O Yahweh* | נַחֲלָת *inheritance* |  |  |
| מְשָׁל־ *mock* | infinitive construct · qal | גּוֹיִם *nations* |  |  |  |
| יֹאמְרוּ *will people say* | yiqtol · qal | גּוֹיִם *nations* | אַיֵּה *where?* |  |  |

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MACULA's semantic frames: for each verb the head word of each participant. A0 is the one who acts, A1 what the act is done to or is about, A2 a further participant; AA, with a causative verb, the one who makes it happen.

## Targum Jonathan {#onkelos}

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בֵּין אוּלָמָא וּלְמַדְבְּחָא יִבְכוּן כַּהֲנַיָא דִמְשַׁמְשִׁין קֳדָם יְיָ וְיֵימְרוּן חוּס יְיָ עַל עַמָךְ וְאַל תִּתֵּן אַחְסַנְתָּךְ לְחִיסוּדִין לְמִישְׁלַט בְּהוֹן עַמְמַיָא לָמָה יֵימְרוּן בְּעַמְמַיָא אָן דְאִתְפְּרִיקוּ בְּמֵימַר אֱלָהָהוֹן:

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The Aramaic translation read beside the Hebrew. Text only: Mova has no Aramaic parser yet.

## English, JPS 1917 {#english}

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Each sentence on its own page, with its tree and pragmatics. A sentence that runs on into the next verse is listed under the verse it begins in.

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1. [Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?'](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/jps/JOL.37/)

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**Hebrew text:** Westminster Leningrad Codex, public domain. **Tree, glosses and frames:** MACULA Hebrew Linguistic Datasets, available at [github.com/Clear-Bible/macula-hebrew](https://github.com/Clear-Bible/macula-hebrew/), [CC BY 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/); converted to Universal Dependencies by Mova (words in text order, a prefix its own word). **Speech act:** Mova's rules on the MACULA words (`macula prag`). **Targum:** Onkelos (Torat Emet), Jonathan and the Writings (Mikraot Gedolot), from Sefaria, public domain.

**English:** JPS 1917, public domain; trees and speech acts by Mova's cycle, frames by Mova's reader (Elamur Cosmic License).

Hebrew sentence `wlc:JOL:36`.

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