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# 1 Kings 12:6 · JPS 1917

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And king Rehoboam took counsel with the old men, that had stood before Solomon his father while he yet lived, saying: 'What counsel give ye me to return answer to this people?'

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**Who acts:** king Rehoboam, old men, father, ye · **What happens:** take, stand, live, say, give, return · **To what, where:** counsel, Solomon, me, answer, people · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is 1 Kings 12:6 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (king Rehoboam, old men, father, ye), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:1KI:457
# text = And king Rehoboam took counsel with the old men, that had stood before Solomon his father while he yet lived, saying: 'What counsel give ye me to return answer to this people?'
1	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	4	cc	_	_
2	king	king	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	compound	_	_
3	Rehoboam	Rehoboam	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	took	take	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	counsel	counsel	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
6	with	with	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
8	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	amod	_	_
9	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	obl	_	_
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
11	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	13	nsubj	_	_
12	had	have	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	13	aux	_	_
13	stood	stand	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	9	acl:relcl	_	_
14	before	before	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
15	Solomon	Solomon	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	13	obl	_	_
16	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	17	nmod:poss	_	_
17	father	father	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	appos	_	_
18	while	while	SCONJ	IN	_	21	mark	_	_
19	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	21	nsubj	_	_
20	yet	yet	ADV	RB	_	21	advmod	_	_
21	lived	live	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	13	advcl	_	_
22	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	23	punct	_	_
23	saying	say	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	13	advcl	_	_
24	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	28	punct	_	_
25	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	28	punct	_	_
26	What	what	DET	WDT	PronType=Int	27	det	_	_
27	counsel	counsel	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	28	obj	_	_
28	give	give	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	23	ccomp	_	_
29	ye	ye	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	28	nsubj	_	_
30	me	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	28	iobj	_	_
31	to	to	PART	TO	_	32	mark	_	_
32	return	return	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	27	acl	_	_
33	answer	answer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	32	obj	_	_
34	to	to	ADP	IN	_	36	case	_	_
35	this	this	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	36	det	_	_
36	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	32	obl	_	_
37	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	23	punct	_	_
38	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	23	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: wh-question
- act: ask
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **take** | past | king Rehoboam | counsel |  |  |  | with the old men | vn bring-11.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent counsel=Theme |
| 2 | **stand** | past · perfect | the old men |  |  | Solomon |  |  | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Agent before solomon=Location |
| 3 | **live** | past | father |  |  |  | yet |  | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund | the old men *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **give** | present | ye | what counsel | me |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP-Dative NP»: agent=Agent i=Recipient counsel=Theme |
| 6 | **return** | to-infinitive | ye *not said here* | answer | this people |  |  |  | vn send-11.1 «NP V NP PP.destination»: agent=Agent answer=Theme to people=Destination |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַיִּוָּעַ֞ץ הַמֶּ֣לֶךְ רְחַבְעָ֗ם אֶת־הַזְּקֵנִים֙ אֲשֶׁר־הָי֣וּ עֹמְדִ֗ים אֶת־פְּנֵי֙ שְׁלֹמֹ֣ה אָבִ֔יו בִּֽהְיֹת֥וֹ חַ֖י לֵאמֹ֑ר אֵ֚יךְ אַתֶּ֣ם נֽוֹעָצִ֔ים לְהָשִׁ֥יב אֶת־הָֽעָם־הַזֶּ֖ה דָּבָֽר׃

[1 Kings 12:6: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/1KI.12.6/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:1KI:457` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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