--- title: 1 Samuel 8:5 (JPS 1917) — And they said unto him: 'Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not… · tree and pragmatics description: And they said unto him: 'Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways; now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.' 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The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (elders, thou, sons), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum. ## The tree {#tree} ```conllu # sent_id = jps:1SA:179 # text = And they said unto him: 'Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways; now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.' 1 And and CCONJ CC _ 3 cc _ _ 2 they they PRON PRP Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs 3 nsubj _ _ 3 said say VERB VBD Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin 0 root _ _ 4 unto unto ADP IN _ 5 case _ _ 5 him he PRON PRP Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs 3 obl _ _ 6 : : PUNCT : _ 3 punct _ _ 7 ' ' PUNCT `` _ 12 punct _ _ 8 Behold behold INTJ UH _ 12 discourse _ _ 9 , , PUNCT , _ 8 punct _ _ 10 thou thou PRON PRP Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch 12 nsubj _ _ 11 art be AUX VBP Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 12 cop _ _ 12 old old ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 3 ccomp _ _ 13 , , PUNCT , _ 17 punct _ _ 14 and and CCONJ CC _ 17 cc _ _ 15 thy thy PRON PRP$ Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch 16 nmod:poss _ _ 16 sons son NOUN NNS Number=Plur 17 nsubj _ _ 17 walk walk VERB VBP Mood=Ind|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 12 conj _ _ 18 not not PART RB Polarity=Neg 17 advmod _ _ 19 in in ADP IN _ 21 case _ _ 20 thy thy PRON PRP$ Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch 21 nmod:poss _ _ 21 ways way NOUN NNS Number=Plur 17 obl _ _ 22 ; ; PUNCT : _ 24 punct _ _ 23 now now ADV RB PronType=Dem 24 advmod _ _ 24 make make VERB VB Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin 12 parataxis _ _ 25 us we PRON PRP Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs 24 obj _ _ 26 a a DET DT Definite=Ind|PronType=Art 27 det _ _ 27 king king NOUN NN Number=Sing 24 xcomp _ _ 28 to to PART TO _ 29 mark _ _ 29 judge judge VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 27 acl _ _ 30 us we PRON PRP Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs 29 obj _ _ 31 like like ADP IN _ 34 case _ _ 32 all all DET PDT PronType=Tot 34 det:predet _ _ 33 the the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 34 det _ _ 34 nations nation NOUN NNS Number=Plur 29 obl _ _ 35 . . PUNCT . _ 3 punct _ _ 36 ' ' PUNCT '' _ 3 punct _ _ ``` ## Pragmatics {#pragmatics} - form: statement - act: request - voice: character - polarity: pos - teacher: kept the draft | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | elders *= elder* | | | | | unto Samuel | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent | | 2 | **is** | present | thou | | | | | old *property* | tree rules | | 3 | **not** **walk** | present | thy sons | | | thy ways | | | vn run-51.3.2-2-1 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Theme in way=Trajectory | | 4 | **make** | infinitive | | us | | | now | | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset we=Product | | 5 | **judge** | to-infinitive | | us | | | | like all nations | vn estimate-34.2-1-1 «NP V NP.value»: agent=Agent we=Value | One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree. ## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew} וַיֹּאמְר֣וּ אֵלָ֗יו הִנֵּה֙ אַתָּ֣ה זָקַ֔נְתָּ וּבָנֶ֕יךָ לֹ֥א הָלְכ֖וּ בִּדְרָכֶ֑יךָ עַתָּ֗ה שִֽׂימָה־לָּ֥נוּ מֶ֛לֶךְ לְשָׁפְטֵ֖נוּ כְּכָל־הַגּוֹיִֽם׃ [1 Samuel 8:5: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/1SA.8.5/) **Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:1SA:179` of Mova's parse database. **The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter. - ← previous: [1 Samuel 8:4 (JPS)](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/jps/1SA.178/) - next →: [1 Samuel 8:6 (JPS)](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/jps/1SA.180/) - ↑ back to [1 Samuel 8:5](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/1SA.8.5/)