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title: 1 Samuel 10:12 (JPS 1917) — And one of the same place answered and said: 'And who is their fathe… · tree and pragmatics
description: And one of the same place answered and said: 'And who is their father?' Therefore it became a proverb: 'Is Saul also among the prophets?' Who acts: one, place, Saul. 1 Samuel 10:12 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# 1 Samuel 10:12 · JPS 1917

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And one of the same place answered and said: 'And who is their father?' Therefore it became a proverb: 'Is Saul also among the prophets?'

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**Who acts:** one, place, Saul · **What happens:** answer, say, be, become · **To what, where:** father, proverb · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is 1 Samuel 10:12 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (one, place, Saul), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:1SA:241
# text = And one of the same place answered and said: 'And who is their father?' Therefore it became a proverb: 'Is Saul also among the prophets?'
1	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
2	one	one	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	7	nsubj	_	_
3	of	of	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	place	place	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nmod	_	_
7	answered	answer	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
9	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	7	conj	_	_
10	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	16	punct	_	_
11	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	16	punct	_	_
12	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	16	cc	_	_
13	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	16	nsubj	_	_
14	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	cop	_	_
15	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	16	nmod:poss	_	_
16	father	father	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	ccomp	_	_
17	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	16	punct	_	_
18	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	16	punct	_	_
19	Therefore	therefore	ADV	RB	_	21	advmod	_	_
20	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	21	nsubj	_	_
21	became	become	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	7	parataxis	_	_
22	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	23	det	_	_
23	proverb	proverb	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	xcomp	_	_
24	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	31	punct	_	_
25	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	31	punct	_	_
26	Is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	31	cop	_	_
27	Saul	Saul	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	31	nsubj	_	_
28	also	also	ADV	RB	_	31	advmod	_	_
29	among	among	ADP	IN	_	31	case	_	_
30	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	31	det	_	_
31	prophets	prophet	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	21	ccomp	_	_
32	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	31	punct	_	_
33	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	31	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: other
- act: narrate
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed form=other, act=narrate

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **answer** *speech: assert* | past | one of the same place |  |  |  |  |  | vn reciprocate-112-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | one of the same place *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **is a** | present |  | prophets's father |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **become** | past | place | a proverb |  |  |  | therefore *property* | vn become-109.1-1-1 «NP V PP.attribute»: agent=Patient |
| 5 | **is** | present | Saul |  |  |  |  | among the prophets | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַיַּ֨עַן אִ֥ישׁ מִשָּׁ֛ם וַיֹּ֖אמֶר וּמִ֣י אֲבִיהֶ֑ם עַל־כֵּן֙ הָיְתָ֣ה לְמָשָׁ֔ל הֲגַ֥ם שָׁא֖וּל בַּנְּבִאִֽים׃

[1 Samuel 10:12: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/1SA.10.12/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:1SA:241` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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