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# 2 Samuel 5:2 · JPS 1917

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In times past, when Saul was king over us, it was thou that didst lead out and bring in Israel; and the LORD said to thee: Thou shalt feed My people Israel, and thou shalt be prince over Israel.'

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**Who acts:** Saul, LORD, Thou · **What happens:** be, lead out, bring in, say, feed · **To what, where:** king, thou, Israel, people, prince · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is 2 Samuel 5:2 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Saul, LORD, Thou), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:2SA:128
# text = In times past, when Saul was king over us, it was thou that didst lead out and bring in Israel; and the LORD said to thee: Thou shalt feed My people Israel, and thou shalt be prince over Israel.'
1	In	in	ADP	IN	_	2	case	_	_
2	times	time	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	14	obl	_	_
3	past	past	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	2	amod	_	_
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
5	when	when	SCONJ	WRB	_	8	mark	_	_
6	Saul	Saul	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	_
7	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	cop	_	_
8	king	king	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	advcl	_	_
9	over	over	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
10	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	8	nmod	_	_
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	14	expl	_	_
13	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	14	cop	_	_
14	thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	0	root	_	_
15	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	17	nsubj	_	_
16	didst	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Style=Arch|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	17	aux	_	_
17	lead	lead	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	14	acl:relcl	_	_
18	out	out	ADP	RP	_	17	compound:prt	_	_
19	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	20	cc	_	_
20	bring	bring	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	17	conj	_	_
21	in	in	ADP	RP	_	20	compound:prt	_	_
22	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	20	obj	_	_
23	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	27	punct	_	_
24	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	27	cc	_	_
25	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	26	det	_	_
26	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	27	nsubj	_	_
27	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	14	conj	_	_
28	to	to	ADP	IN	_	29	case	_	_
29	thee	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	27	obl	_	_
30	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	33	punct	_	_
31	Thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	33	nsubj	_	_
32	shalt	shall	AUX	MD	Style=Arch|VerbForm=Fin	33	aux	_	_
33	feed	feed	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	27	ccomp	_	_
34	My	my	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	35	nmod:poss	_	_
35	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	33	obj	_	_
36	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	35	appos	_	_
37	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	42	punct	_	_
38	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	42	cc	_	_
39	thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	42	nsubj	_	_
40	shalt	shall	AUX	MD	Style=Arch|VerbForm=Fin	42	aux	_	_
41	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	42	cop	_	_
42	prince	prince	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	33	conj	_	_
43	over	over	ADP	IN	_	44	case	_	_
44	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	42	nmod	_	_
45	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	14	punct	_	_
46	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	14	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed voice=character

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | past | Saul | king |  |  |  | over us | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** | past |  | thou |  |  | time |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **lead out** | past · do-support |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn result-27.2 «NP V PP»: agent=Precondition |
| 4 | **bring in** | infinitive |  | Israel |  |  |  |  | vn earn-54.6 «NP V NP»: agent=Theme israel=Asset |
| 5 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | the LORD |  |  |  |  | to thee | vn indicate-78-1 «NP V PP.recipient that S»: agent=Pivot to thou=Experiencer clause=Topic |
| 6 | **feed** | shall | Thou |  | My people |  |  |  | vn feeding-39.7 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent people=Recipient |
| 7 | **is a** | shall | thou | prince |  | Israel |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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גַּם־אֶתְמ֣וֹל גַּם־שִׁלְשׁ֗וֹם בִּהְי֨וֹת שָׁא֥וּל מֶ֙לֶךְ֙ עָלֵ֔ינוּ אַתָּ֗ה הָיִ֛יתָ הַמּוֹצִ֥יא וְהַמֵּבִ֖יא אֶת־יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל וַיֹּ֨אמֶר יְהוָ֜ה לְךָ֗ אַתָּ֨ה תִרְעֶ֤ה אֶת־עַמִּי֙ אֶת־יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל וְאַתָּ֛ה תִּהְיֶ֥ה לְנָגִ֖יד עַל־יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃

[2 Samuel 5:2: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/2SA.5.2/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:2SA:128` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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