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title: 2 Samuel 19:44 (JPS 1917) — And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said: 'We have… · tree and pragmatics
description: And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said: 'We have ten parts in the king, and we have also more right in David than ye; why then did ye despise us, that our advice should not be first had in bringing back our king?' And the words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of th
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# 2 Samuel 19:44 · JPS 1917

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And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said: 'We have ten parts in the king, and we have also more right in David than ye; why then did ye despise us, that our advice should not be first had in bringing back our king?' And the words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of the men of Israel.

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**Who acts:** men, We, ye, words · **What happens:** answer, say, have, despise, not have, bring back · **To what, where:** men, ten parts, right, David, us, advice · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is 2 Samuel 19:44 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (men, We, ye, words), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:2SA:600
# text = And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said: 'We have ten parts in the king, and we have also more right in David than ye; why then did ye despise us, that our advice should not be first had in bringing back our king?' And the words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of the men of Israel.
1	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	nsubj	_	_
4	of	of	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nmod	_	_
6	answered	answer	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	obj	_	_
9	of	of	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
10	Judah	Judah	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	8	nmod	_	_
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
12	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	13	cc	_	_
13	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
14	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	17	punct	_	_
15	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	17	punct	_	_
16	We	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	17	nsubj	_	_
17	have	have	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	ccomp	_	_
18	ten	ten	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	19	nummod	_	_
19	parts	part	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	17	obj	_	_
20	in	in	ADP	IN	_	22	case	_	_
21	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	22	det	_	_
22	king	king	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	19	nmod	_	_
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	26	punct	_	_
24	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	26	cc	_	_
25	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	26	nsubj	_	_
26	have	have	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	17	conj	_	_
27	also	also	ADV	RB	_	26	advmod	_	_
28	more	more	ADV	RBR	Degree=Cmp	29	advmod	_	_
29	right	right	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	26	obj	_	_
30	in	in	ADP	IN	_	31	case	_	_
31	David	David	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	29	nmod	_	_
32	than	than	ADP	IN	_	33	case	_	_
33	ye	ye	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	29	obl	_	_
34	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	39	punct	_	_
35	why	why	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	39	advmod	_	_
36	then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	39	advmod	_	_
37	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	39	aux	_	_
38	ye	ye	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	39	nsubj	_	_
39	despise	despise	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	26	conj	_	_
40	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	39	obj	_	_
41	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	49	punct	_	_
42	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	49	mark	_	_
43	our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	44	nmod:poss	_	_
44	advice	advice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	49	nsubj:pass	_	_
45	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	49	aux	_	_
46	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	49	advmod	_	_
47	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	49	aux:pass	_	_
48	first	first	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	49	advmod	_	_
49	had	have	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	39	advcl	_	_
50	in	in	SCONJ	IN	_	51	mark	_	_
51	bringing	bring	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	49	advcl	_	_
52	back	back	ADV	RB	_	51	compound:prt	_	_
53	our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	54	nmod:poss	_	_
54	king	king	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	51	obj	_	_
55	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	17	punct	_	_
56	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	17	punct	_	_
57	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	66	cc	_	_
58	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	59	det	_	_
59	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	66	nsubj	_	_
60	of	of	ADP	IN	_	62	case	_	_
61	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	62	det	_	_
62	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	59	nmod	_	_
63	of	of	ADP	IN	_	64	case	_	_
64	Judah	Judah	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	62	nmod	_	_
65	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	66	cop	_	_
66	fiercer	fierce	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	6	conj	_	_
67	than	than	ADP	IN	_	69	case	_	_
68	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	69	det	_	_
69	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	66	obl	_	_
70	of	of	ADP	IN	_	72	case	_	_
71	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	72	det	_	_
72	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	69	nmod	_	_
73	of	of	ADP	IN	_	74	case	_	_
74	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	72	nmod	_	_
75	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed act=assert, indirect=0

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **answer** *speech: assert* | past | the men of Israel |  | the men of Judah |  |  |  | vn reciprocate-112-1 «NP V PP»: agent=Agent man=Eventuality |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | the men of Israel *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **have** | present | We | ten parts |  |  |  | in the king | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent part=Patient |
| 4 | **have** | present | we | right |  | David |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent right=Patient |
| 5 | **despise** | past · do-support | ye | us |  |  | then |  | vn admire-31.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer we=Stimulus |
| 6 | **not** **have** | should · passive |  | our advice |  |  |  | first *property* | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: subject=Patient |
| 7 | **bring back** | gerund |  |  | our king |  |  |  | vn bring-11.3-1 «NP V NP ADVP»: agent=Instrument king=Destination |
| 8 | **is** | past | the words of the men of Judah |  |  |  |  | than the words of the men of Israel; fierce *property* | tree rules |
| 9 | **word** |  |  | the men of Judah |  |  |  |  | nom word «communication transitive»: of=patient |
| 10 | **word** |  |  | the men of Israel |  |  |  |  | nom word «communication transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַיַּ֣עַן אִֽישׁ־יִשְׂרָאֵל֩ אֶת־אִ֨ישׁ יְהוּדָ֜ה וַיֹּ֗אמֶר עֶֽשֶׂר־יָד֨וֹת לִ֣י בַמֶּלֶךְ֮ וְגַם־בְּדָוִד֮ אֲנִ֣י מִמְּךָ֒ וּמַדּ֙וּעַ֙ הֱקִלֹּתַ֔נִי וְלֹא־הָיָ֨ה דְבָרִ֥י רִאשׁ֛וֹן לִ֖י לְהָשִׁ֣יב אֶת־מַלְכִּ֑י וַיִּ֙קֶשׁ֙ דְּבַר־אִ֣ישׁ יְהוּדָ֔ה מִדְּבַ֖ר אִ֥ישׁ יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃ס

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