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title: Ezekiel 8:12 (JPS 1917) — Then said He unto me: 'Son of man, hast thou seen what the elders of… · tree and pragmatics
description: Then said He unto me: 'Son of man, hast thou seen what the elders of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in his chambers of imagery? for they say: The LORD seeth us not, the LORD hath forsaken the land.' Who acts: cloud, thou, elders, LORD. Ezekiel 8:12 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree
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# Ezekiel 8:12 · JPS 1917

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Then said He unto me: 'Son of man, hast thou seen what the elders of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in his chambers of imagery? for they say: The LORD seeth us not, the LORD hath forsaken the land.'

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**Who acts:** cloud, thou, elders, LORD · **What happens:** say, see, do, not see, forsake · **To what, where:** dark, us, land · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Ezekiel 8:12 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (cloud, thou, elders, LORD), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:EZK:158
# text = Then said He unto me: 'Son of man, hast thou seen what the elders of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in his chambers of imagery? for they say: The LORD seeth us not, the LORD hath forsaken the land.'
1	Then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	2	advmod	_	_
2	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
4	unto	unto	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	me	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	2	obl	_	_
6	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	2	punct	_	_
7	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	2	punct	_	_
8	Son	son	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	vocative	_	_
9	of	of	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
10	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	nmod	_	_
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
12	hast	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	aux	_	_
13	thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	14	nsubj	_	_
14	seen	see	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	2	ccomp	_	_
15	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	23	obj	_	_
16	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	17	det	_	_
17	elders	elder	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	23	nsubj	_	_
18	of	of	ADP	IN	_	20	case	_	_
19	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	20	det	_	_
20	house	house	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	17	nmod	_	_
21	of	of	ADP	IN	_	22	case	_	_
22	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	20	nmod	_	_
23	do	do	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	ccomp	_	_
24	in	in	ADP	IN	_	26	case	_	_
25	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	26	det	_	_
26	dark	dark	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	23	obl	_	_
27	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	29	punct	_	_
28	every	every	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	29	det	_	_
29	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	23	nsubj	_	_
30	in	in	ADP	IN	_	32	case	_	_
31	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	32	nmod:poss	_	_
32	chambers	chamber	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	29	nmod	_	_
33	of	of	ADP	IN	_	34	case	_	_
34	imagery	imagery	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	32	nmod	_	_
35	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	14	punct	_	_
36	for	for	SCONJ	IN	_	38	mark	_	_
37	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	38	nsubj	_	_
38	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	advcl	_	_
39	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	42	punct	_	_
40	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	41	det	_	_
41	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	42	nsubj	_	_
42	seeth	see	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	38	ccomp	_	_
43	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	42	obj	_	_
44	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	42	advmod	_	_
45	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	49	punct	_	_
46	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	47	det	_	_
47	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	49	nsubj	_	_
48	hath	have	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	49	aux	_	_
49	forsaken	forsake	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	42	conj	_	_
50	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	51	det	_	_
51	land	land	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	49	obj	_	_
52	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
53	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: yes/no question
- act: ask
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed form=q, act=ask, indirect=0

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | cloud |  |  |  | then | unto me | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **see** | present · perfect | thou |  |  |  |  | Son of man *vocative* | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V how S\_INF»: agent=Experiencer clause=Stimulus |
| 3 | **do** | present | the elders of the house of Israel |  |  | the dark |  |  | vn act-114-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent what=Eventuality |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | elders *= elder* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **not** **see** | present | the LORD | us |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer we=Stimulus |
| 6 | **forsake** | present · perfect | the LORD | the land |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֵלַי֮ הֲרָאִ֣יתָ בֶן־אָדָם֒ אֲשֶׁ֨ר זִקְנֵ֤י בֵֽית־יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ עֹשִׂ֣ים בַּחֹ֔שֶׁךְ אִ֖ישׁ בְּחַדְרֵ֣י מַשְׂכִּית֑וֹ כִּ֣י אֹמְרִ֗ים אֵ֤ין יְהוָה֙ רֹאֶ֣ה אֹתָ֔נוּ עָזַ֥ב יְהוָ֖ה אֶת־הָאָֽרֶץ׃

[Ezekiel 8:12: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/EZK.8.12/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:EZK:158` of Mova's parse database.

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