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title: Judges 8:18 (JPS 1917) — Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna: 'Where are the men whom ye sle… · tree and pragmatics
description: Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna: 'Where are the men whom ye slew at Tabor?' And they answered: 'As thou art, so were they; of one form with the children of a king.' Who acts: Gideon, ye, men. Judges 8:18 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Judges 8:18 · JPS 1917

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Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna: 'Where are the men whom ye slew at Tabor?' And they answered: 'As thou art, so were they; of one form with the children of a king.'

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**Who acts:** Gideon, ye, men · **What happens:** say, be, slay, answer · **To what, where:** men, Tabor · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Judges 8:18 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Gideon, ye, men), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JDG:242
# text = Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna: 'Where are the men whom ye slew at Tabor?' And they answered: 'As thou art, so were they; of one form with the children of a king.'
1	Then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	2	advmod	_	_
2	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
4	unto	unto	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	Zebah	Zebah	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	obl	_	_
6	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
7	Zalmunna	Zalmunna	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	5	conj	_	_
8	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	13	punct	_	_
9	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	13	punct	_	_
10	Where	where	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	13	advmod	_	_
11	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	cop	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
13	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	2	ccomp	_	_
14	whom	whom	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	16	obj	_	_
15	ye	ye	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	16	nsubj	_	_
16	slew	slay	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	13	acl:relcl	_	_
17	at	at	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	Tabor	Tabor	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	16	obl	_	_
19	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	13	punct	_	_
20	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	13	punct	_	_
21	And	and	CCONJ	CC	_	23	cc	_	_
22	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	23	nsubj	_	_
23	answered	answer	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	2	conj	_	_
24	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	23	punct	_	_
25	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	30	punct	_	_
26	As	as	SCONJ	IN	_	28	mark	_	_
27	thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	28	nsubj	_	_
28	art	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	30	advcl	_	_
29	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	28	punct	_	_
30	so	so	ADV	RB	_	23	ccomp	_	_
31	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	30	cop	_	_
32	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	30	nsubj	_	_
33	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	30	punct	_	_
34	of	of	ADP	IN	_	36	case	_	_
35	one	one	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	36	nummod	_	_
36	form	form	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	parataxis	_	_
37	with	with	ADP	IN	_	39	case	_	_
38	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	39	det	_	_
39	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	36	nmod	_	_
40	of	of	ADP	IN	_	42	case	_	_
41	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	42	det	_	_
42	king	king	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	39	nmod	_	_
43	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	23	punct	_	_
44	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	23	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: wh-question
- act: ask
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | Gideon |  |  |  | then | unto Zebah and Zalmunna | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is a** | present |  | the men |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **slay** | past | ye | the men |  | Tabor |  |  | vn murder-42.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent whom=Patient |
| 4 | **answer** *speech: assert* | past | men *= man* |  |  |  |  |  | vn reciprocate-112-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 5 | **is** | past | men *= man* |  |  |  |  | so *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַיֹּ֗אמֶר אֶל־זֶ֙בַח֙ וְאֶל־צַלְמֻנָּ֔ע אֵיפֹה֙ הָאֲנָשִׁ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר הֲרַגְתֶּ֖ם בְּתָב֑וֹר וַֽיֹּאמרוּ֙כָּמ֣וֹךָ כְמוֹהֶ֔ם אֶחָ֕ד כְּתֹ֖אַר בְּנֵ֥י הַמֶּֽלֶךְ׃

[Judges 8:18: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/JDG.8.18/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JDG:242` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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