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title: Joel 2:17 (JPS 1917) — Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch a… · tree and pragmatics
description: Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?' Who acts: priests, natio
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# Joel 2:17 · JPS 1917

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Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?'

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**Who acts:** priests, nations, people · **What happens:** let, weep, say, spare, not give, reproach · **To what, where:** people, heritage, God · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Joel 2:17 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (priests, nations, people), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JOL:37
# text = Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say: 'Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not Thy heritage to reproach, that the nations should make them a byword: wherefore should they say among the peoples: Where is their God?'
1	Let	let	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	priests	priest	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	1	nsubj	_	_
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	ministers	minister	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	appos	_	_
7	of	of	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
8	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	6	nmod	_	_
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
11	weep	weep	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	1	xcomp	_	_
12	between	between	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
13	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	14	det	_	_
14	porch	porch	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obl	_	_
15	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	17	cc	_	_
16	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	17	det	_	_
17	altar	altar	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	conj	_	_
18	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	20	punct	_	_
19	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	20	cc	_	_
20	let	let	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	1	conj	_	_
21	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	20	nsubj	_	_
22	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	20	xcomp	_	_
23	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	25	punct	_	_
24	'	'	PUNCT	``	_	25	punct	_	_
25	Spare	spare	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	22	ccomp	_	_
26	thy	thy	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	27	nmod:poss	_	_
27	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	25	obj	_	_
28	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	30	punct	_	_
29	O	o	INTJ	UH	_	30	discourse	_	_
30	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	25	vocative	_	_
31	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	33	punct	_	_
32	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	33	cc	_	_
33	give	give	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	25	conj	_	_
34	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	33	advmod	_	_
35	Thy	thy	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	36	nmod:poss	_	_
36	heritage	heritage	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	33	obj	_	_
37	to	to	PART	TO	_	38	mark	_	_
38	reproach	reproach	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	advcl	_	_
39	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	44	punct	_	_
40	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	44	mark	_	_
41	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	42	det	_	_
42	nations	nation	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	44	nsubj	_	_
43	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	44	aux	_	_
44	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	advcl	_	_
45	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	44	obj	_	_
46	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	47	det	_	_
47	byword	byword	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	44	xcomp	_	_
48	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	52	punct	_	_
49	wherefore	wherefore	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	52	advmod	_	_
50	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	52	aux	_	_
51	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	52	nsubj	_	_
52	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	1	parataxis	_	_
53	among	among	ADP	IN	_	55	case	_	_
54	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	55	det	_	_
55	peoples	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	52	obl	_	_
56	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	60	punct	_	_
57	Where	where	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	60	advmod	_	_
58	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	60	cop	_	_
59	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	60	nmod:poss	_	_
60	God	God	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	52	ccomp	_	_
61	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
62	'	'	PUNCT	''	_	1	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: command
- act: request
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed form=imp, act=request, polarity=none

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **let** | infinitive | the priests |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **weep** | infinitive | the priests *not said here* |  |  |  |  | between the porch and the altar | vn breathe-40.1.2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **let** | infinitive | priests *= priest* |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | infinitive | priests *= priest* *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **spare** | infinitive |  | thy people |  |  |  | LORD *vocative* | vn bill-54.5 «NP V NP NP.asset»: agent=Agent people=Asset |
| 6 | **not** **give** | infinitive |  | Thy heritage |  |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent heritage=Theme |
| 7 | **reproach** | to-infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn judgment-33.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent |
| 8 | **make** | should | the nations | people |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset they=Product |
| 9 | **say** *speech: assert* | should | people |  |  |  |  | among the peoples; wherefore *property* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 10 | **is a** | present |  | people's God |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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בֵּ֤ין הָאוּלָם֙ וְלַמִּזְבֵּ֔חַ יִבְכּוּ֙ הַכֹּ֣הֲנִ֔ים מְשָׁרְתֵ֖י יְהוָ֑ה וְֽיֹאמְר֞וּ ח֧וּסָה יְהוָ֣ה עַל־עַמֶּ֗ךָ וְאַל־תִּתֵּ֨ן נַחֲלָתְךָ֤ לְחֶרְפָּה֙ לִמְשָׁל־בָּ֣ם גּוֹיִ֔ם לָ֚מָּה יֹאמְר֣וּ בָֽעַמִּ֔ים אַיֵּ֖ה אֱלֹהֵיהֶֽם׃

[Joel 2:17: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/JOL.2.17/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JOL:37` of Mova's parse database.

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