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title: Joshua 22:28 (JPS 1917) — Therefore said we: It shall be, when they so say to us or to our gen… · tree and pragmatics
description: Therefore said we: It shall be, when they so say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we shall say: Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt-offering, nor for sacrifice; but it is a witness between us and you. Who acts: we, children, fathers, al
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# Joshua 22:28 · JPS 1917

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Therefore said we: It shall be, when they so say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we shall say: Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt-offering, nor for sacrifice; but it is a witness between us and you.

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**Who acts:** we, children, fathers, altar · **What happens:** say, come, behold, make, be, pattern · **To what, where:** us, pattern, LORD, witness · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Joshua 22:28 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (we, children, fathers, altar), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:JOS:625
# text = Therefore said we: It shall be, when they so say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we shall say: Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt-offering, nor for sacrifice; but it is a witness between us and you.
1	Therefore	therefore	ADV	RB	_	2	advmod	_	_
2	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
4	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	7	punct	_	_
5	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
6	shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	_
7	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	ccomp	_	_
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
9	when	when	SCONJ	WRB	_	12	mark	_	_
10	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
11	so	so	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
12	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	advcl	_	_
13	to	to	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
14	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	12	obl	_	_
15	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	18	cc	_	_
16	to	to	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
17	our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	18	nmod:poss	_	_
18	generations	generation	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	14	conj	_	_
19	in	in	ADP	IN	_	20	case	_	_
20	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	obl	_	_
21	to	to	PART	TO	_	22	mark	_	_
22	come	come	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	20	acl	_	_
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
24	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	27	mark	_	_
25	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	27	nsubj	_	_
26	shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	27	aux	_	_
27	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	advcl	_	_
28	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	29	punct	_	_
29	Behold	Behold	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	27	ccomp	_	_
30	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	31	det	_	_
31	pattern	pattern	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	29	obj	_	_
32	of	of	ADP	IN	_	34	case	_	_
33	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	34	det	_	_
34	altar	altar	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	31	nmod	_	_
35	of	of	ADP	IN	_	37	case	_	_
36	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	37	det	_	_
37	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	34	nmod	_	_
38	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	42	punct	_	_
39	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	42	obj	_	_
40	our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	41	nmod:poss	_	_
41	fathers	father	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	42	nsubj	_	_
42	made	make	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	37	acl:relcl	_	_
43	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	48	punct	_	_
44	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	48	advmod	_	_
45	for	for	ADP	IN	_	48	case	_	_
46	burnt	burn	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	48	amod	_	_
47	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	48	punct	_	_
48	offering	offering	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	42	obl	_	_
49	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	52	punct	_	_
50	nor	nor	CCONJ	CC	Polarity=Neg	52	cc	_	_
51	for	for	ADP	IN	_	52	case	_	_
52	sacrifice	sacrifice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	48	conj	_	_
53	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	58	punct	_	_
54	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	58	cc	_	_
55	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	58	nsubj	_	_
56	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	58	cop	_	_
57	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	58	det	_	_
58	witness	witness	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	29	conj	_	_
59	between	between	ADP	IN	_	60	case	_	_
60	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	58	nmod	_	_
61	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	62	cc	_	_
62	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	60	conj	_	_
63	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: narrate
- voice: narrator
- polarity: neg
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | we |  |  |  |  | therefore *property* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | children *= child* |  | us |  | time |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V PP.recipient S-Quote»: agent=Agent to we=Recipient |
| 3 | **come** | to-infinitive | children *= child* *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | shall | we |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **behold** | infinitive |  | the pattern of the altar of the LORD |  |  |  |  | vn sight-30.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer pattern=Stimulus |
| 6 | **make** | past | our fathers | the LORD |  |  |  | for burnt offering nor sacrifice | vn build-26.1-1 «NP V NP P.asset»: agent=Agent which=Product for offering=Asset |
| 7 | **is a** | present | altar | a witness |  |  |  | between us | tree rules |
| 8 | **pattern** |  | the altar of the LORD |  |  |  |  |  | nom pattern «cognition intransitive»: of=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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וַנֹּ֕אמֶר וְהָיָ֗ה כִּֽי־יֹאמְר֥וּ אֵלֵ֛ינוּ וְאֶל־דֹּרֹתֵ֖ינוּ מָחָ֑ר וְאָמַ֡רְנוּ רְא֣וּ אֶת־תַּבְנִית֩ מִזְבַּ֨ח יְהוָ֜ה אֲשֶׁר־עָשׂ֣וּ אֲבוֹתֵ֗ינוּ לֹ֤א לְעוֹלָה֙ וְלֹ֣א לְזֶ֔בַח כִּי־עֵ֣ד ה֔וּא בֵּינֵ֖ינוּ וּבֵינֵיכֶֽם׃

[Joshua 22:28: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/JOS.22.28/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:JOS:625` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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