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title: Obadiah 1:8 (JPS 1917) — Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, destroy the wise men out of… · tree and pragmatics
description: Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and discernment out of the mount of Esau? Who acts: LORD, I. Obadiah 1:8 in JPS 1917 with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Obadiah 1:8 · JPS 1917

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Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and discernment out of the mount of Esau?

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**Who acts:** LORD, I · **What happens:** say, not destroy · **To what, where:** wise men, Edom · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is Obadiah 1:8 · JPS 1917 in the English of the Jewish Publication Society's 1917 translation, from Mova's open Bible corpus. The page gives the sentence's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies, parsed by Mova and checked by a teacher model — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (LORD, I), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it. The original of the verse links back to its own tree and to the Targum.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = jps:OBA:10
# text = Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and discernment out of the mount of Esau?
1	Shall	shall	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	12	aux	_	_
2	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
3	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	12	advmod	_	_
4	in	in	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
5	that	that	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	6	det	_	_
6	day	day	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	obl	_	_
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
8	saith	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Style=Arch|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	12	parataxis	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	LORD	LORD	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	_
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
12	destroy	destroy	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
13	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	15	det	_	_
14	wise	wise	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	amod	_	_
15	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	12	obj	_	_
16	out	out	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
17	of	of	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	Edom	Edom	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	12	obl	_	_
19	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
20	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	21	cc	_	_
21	discernment	discernment	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	conj	_	_
22	out	out	ADP	IN	_	25	case	_	_
23	of	of	ADP	IN	_	25	case	_	_
24	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	25	det	_	_
25	mount	mount	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	nmod	_	_
26	of	of	ADP	IN	_	27	case	_	_
27	Esau	Esau	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	25	nmod	_	_
28	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	12	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: yes/no question
- act: other
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- indirect: yes
- teacher: changed act=other

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | the LORD |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **not** **destroy** | shall | I | the wise men |  | Edom | day |  | vn destroy-44 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent man=Patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The Hebrew of this verse {#hebrew}

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הֲל֛וֹא בַּיּ֥וֹם הַה֖וּא נְאֻם־יְהוָ֑ה וְהַאֲבַדְתִּ֤י חֲכָמִים֙ מֵֽאֱד֔וֹם וּתְבוּנָ֖ה מֵהַ֥ר עֵשָֽׂו׃

[Obadiah 1:8: the Hebrew tree, its pragmatics and Targum Jonathan →](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/neviim/OBA.1.8/)

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**Source.** The Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic Text, Jewish Publication Society, 1917, from eBible.org: public domain. Sentence `jps:OBA:10` of Mova's parse database.

**The tree and the speech act** come from Mova's cycle: the small model's draft, read by a large model as teacher, passed by Mova's gates (Elamur Cosmic License). **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the chapter read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence of the chapter.

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