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title: Ivy says, "No pain no gain, eh." What should she know? — Practising when you would rather not · tree and pragmatics
description: Ivy says, "No pain no gain, eh." What should she know? Test 9 · ★ of lesson 3 «Practising when you would rather not» of the arts course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 9 · ★ · Practising when you would rather not

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Ivy says, "No pain no gain, eh." What should she know?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Ivy, gain · **What happens:** say, pain, know · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 9 · ★ of lesson 3 «Practising when you would rather not» of the arts course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/arts/3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not/#t9).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Ivy says, "No pain no gain, eh."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:1
# text = Ivy says, "No pain no gain, eh."
1	Ivy	Ivy	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
4	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	No	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	6	det	_	_
6	pain	pain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	obj	_	_
7	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	8	det	_	_
8	gain	gain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
10	eh	eh	INTJ	UH	_	6	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	6	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Ivy |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **pain** *in a quote* |  | no gain |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What should she know?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:2
# text = What should she know?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	4	obj	_	_
2	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	_
3	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	know	know	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **know** | should | gain |  |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V NP PP.attribute»: agent=Experiencer what=Stimulus |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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Pain means she is practising well

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:o1:1
# text = Pain means she is practising well
1	Pain	pain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	means	mean	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	aux	_	_
5	practising	practise	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	2	ccomp	_	_
6	well	well	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	5	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **mean** | present | Pain |  |  |  |  |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **practise** | present · progressive | Pain |  |  |  |  | well *property* | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Pain always goes away by itself if she keeps playing for longer

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:o2:1
# text = Pain always goes away by itself if she keeps playing for longer
1	Pain	pain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
2	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	3	advmod	_	_
3	goes	go	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	away	away	ADV	RB	_	3	advmod	_	_
5	by	by	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
6	itself	itself	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes	3	obl	_	_
7	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	9	mark	_	_
8	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	_
9	keeps	keep	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	advcl	_	_
10	playing	play	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	9	xcomp	_	_
11	for	for	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
12	longer	long	ADV	RBR	Degree=Cmp	10	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **go away** | present | Pain |  |  |  |  | by Pain; always, away *property* | vn occur-48.3-2 «NP V PP»: agent=Theme by itself=Location |
| 2 | **keep** *a condition, not said to happen* | present | she |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **play** | gerund | she *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn use-105.1 «NP V NP PP.predicate»: agent=Agent for long=Eventuality |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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Pain from playing is a warning, not a reward

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:o3:1
# text = Pain from playing is a warning, not a reward
1	Pain	pain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
2	from	from	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
3	playing	playing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nmod	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
5	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	warning	warning	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	10	advmod	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	reward	reward	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	conj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | Pain from playing | a warning and a reward |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Only beginners get hurt from playing

```conllu
# sent_id = question:arts:3-practising-when-you-would-rather-not:t9:o4:1
# text = Only beginners get hurt from playing
1	Only	only	ADV	RB	_	2	advmod	_	_
2	beginners	beginner	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nsubj:pass	_	_
3	get	get	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux:pass	_	_
4	hurt	hurt	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	0	root	_	_
5	from	from	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
6	playing	playing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **hurt** | present · passive |  | beginners |  | playing |  |  | vn hurt-40.8.3-2 «NP V NP»: subject=Patient |

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