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title: did John say something before they topped him? — Grimm's Fairy Tales, Faithful John, Jo… · tree and pragmatics
description: did John say something before they topped him? Test 6 · ★ of lesson 1483 «Grimm's Fairy Tales, Faithful John, John is turned to stone and brought back at a dreadful price» of the books course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's
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# Test 6 · ★ · Grimm's Fairy Tales, Faithful John, John is turned to ston…

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did John say something before they topped him?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 1 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** John, they · **What happens:** say, top · **To what, where:** something, John · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 6 · ★ of lesson 1483 «Grimm's Fairy Tales, Faithful John, John is turned to stone and brought back at a dreadful price» of the books course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/books/1483-pg503-part70/#t6).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1483-pg503-part70:t6:1
# text = did John say something before they topped him?
1	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	aux	_	_
2	John	John	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
4	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	3	obj	_	_
5	before	before	SCONJ	IN	_	7	mark	_	_
6	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	topped	top	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	advcl	_	_
8	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past · do-support | John | something |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent something=Topic |
| 2 | **top** | past | they | John |  |  |  |  | vn contiguous\_location-47.8 «NP V NP»: agent=Theme he=Co-Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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He told the King he was wrongly done

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1483-pg503-part70:t6:o1:1
# text = He told the King he was wrongly done
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	told	tell	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	King	King	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	iobj	_	_
5	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	8	nsubj	_	_
6	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	aux:pass	_	_
7	wrongly	wrongly	ADV	RB	_	8	advmod	_	_
8	done	do	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	2	ccomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **tell** *speech: assert* | past | He |  | the King |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Agent king=Recipient clause=Topic |
| 2 | **do** | past · passive |  | King |  |  |  | wrongly *property* | vn act-114-1 «NP V NP»: subject=Eventuality |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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He told the King that the Queen had been poisoned by his own hand and that he deserved death

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1483-pg503-part70:t6:o2:1
# text = He told the King that the Queen had been poisoned by his own hand and that he deserved death
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	told	tell	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	King	King	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	iobj	_	_
5	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	10	mark	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	Queen	Queen	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
8	had	have	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	aux	_	_
9	been	be	AUX	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	10	aux:pass	_	_
10	poisoned	poison	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	2	ccomp	_	_
11	by	by	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
12	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	14	nmod:poss	_	_
13	own	own	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	hand	hand	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	obl	_	_
15	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	18	cc	_	_
16	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	18	mark	_	_
17	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	18	nsubj	_	_
18	deserved	deserve	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	2	conj	_	_
19	death	death	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	18	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **tell** *speech: assert* | past | He |  | the King |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Agent king=Recipient clause=Topic |
| 2 | **poison** | past · perfect · passive | King's own hand | the Queen |  |  |  |  | vn poison-42.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent subject=Patient |
| 3 | **deserve** | past | King | death |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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He asked the executioner to make it quick and to pray with him for the Queen's soul

<!-- fold The tree, 18 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1483-pg503-part70:t6:o3:1
# text = He asked the executioner to make it quick and to pray with him for the Queen's soul
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	asked	ask	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	executioner	executioner	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	obj	_	_
5	to	to	PART	TO	_	6	mark	_	_
6	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	xcomp	_	_
7	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	obj	_	_
8	quick	quick	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	xcomp	_	_
9	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	11	cc	_	_
10	to	to	PART	TO	_	11	mark	_	_
11	pray	pray	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	6	conj	_	_
12	with	with	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
13	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	obl	_	_
14	for	for	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
15	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	Queen	Queen	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	18	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	's	's	PART	POS	_	16	case	_	_
18	soul	soul	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **ask** *speech: ask* | past | He | the executioner |  |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V NP whether S\_INF»: agent=Agent executioner=Recipient clause=Topic |
| 2 | **make** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | the executioner *not said here* | executioner |  |  |  | quick *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset it=Product |
| 3 | **pray** | to-infinitive | the executioner *not said here* |  |  |  |  | with him *= he*; for the Queen's soul | vn long-32.2 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Pivot for soul=Theme |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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He said he had been treated unfairly

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1483-pg503-part70:t6:o4:1
# text = He said he had been treated unfairly
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj:pass	_	_
4	had	have	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
5	been	be	AUX	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	6	aux:pass	_	_
6	treated	treat	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	2	ccomp	_	_
7	unfairly	unfairly	ADV	RB	_	6	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | He |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **treat** | past · perfect · passive |  | he |  |  |  | unfairly *property* | vn equip-13.4.2-1 «NP V NP.recipient»: subject=Recipient |

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