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title: did the robbers actually lose to him? — Norse Tales, The Master Thief, part 17… · tree and pragmatics
description: did the robbers actually lose to him? Test 4 · ★ of lesson 1520 «Norse Tales, The Master Thief, part 17: the youth tricks the Governor with three hares and steals the roast joint» of the books course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option
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# Test 4 · ★ · Norse Tales, The Master Thief, part 17: the youth tricks t…

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did the robbers actually lose to him?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** robbers · **What happens:** do, lose · **To what, where:** him

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This is test 4 · ★ of lesson 1520 «Norse Tales, The Master Thief, part 17: the youth tricks the Governor with three hares and steals the roast joint» of the books course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/books/1520-pg540-part17/#t4).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1520-pg540-part17:t4:1
# text = did the robbers actually lose to him?
1	did	do	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	robbers	robber	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
4	actually	actually	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	lose	lose	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	ccomp	_	_
6	to	to	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **do** | past |  |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **lose** | present | the robbers |  | him *= he* |  |  | actually *property* | vn succeed-74-3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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Nope, they still ran the whole crew

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1520-pg540-part17:t4:o1:1
# text = Nope, they still ran the whole crew
1	Nope	nope	INTJ	UH	_	5	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
4	still	still	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	ran	run	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
7	whole	whole	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	amod	_	_
8	crew	crew	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **run** | past | they | the whole crew |  |  | still |  | vn run-51.3.2-2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Theme crew=Trajectory |

### Option 2 {#o2}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1520-pg540-part17:t4:o2:1
# text = Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog
1	Kinda	kinda	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	to	to	PART	TO	_	6	mark	_	_
6	admit	admit	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	xcomp	_	_
7	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
8	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
9	top	top	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	dog	dog	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	ccomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | past | they |  |  |  |  | kinda *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **admit** *speech: other* | to-infinitive | they *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn confess-37.10 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **is a** | past | he | top dog |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog of the whole crew

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1520-pg540-part17:t4:o3:1
# text = Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog of the whole crew
1	Kinda	kinda	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	to	to	PART	TO	_	6	mark	_	_
6	admit	admit	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	xcomp	_	_
7	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
8	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
9	top	top	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	dog	dog	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	ccomp	_	_
11	of	of	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	14	det	_	_
13	whole	whole	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	crew	crew	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | past | they |  |  |  |  | kinda *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **admit** *speech: other* | to-infinitive | they *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn confess-37.10 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **is a** | past | he | top dog |  |  |  | of the whole crew | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog of the whole crew, though some of them still grumbled about it

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1520-pg540-part17:t4:o4:1
# text = Kinda, they had to admit he was top dog of the whole crew, though some of them still grumbled about it
1	Kinda	kinda	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	to	to	PART	TO	_	6	mark	_	_
6	admit	admit	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	xcomp	_	_
7	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
8	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
9	top	top	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	dog	dog	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	ccomp	_	_
11	of	of	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	14	det	_	_
13	whole	whole	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	crew	crew	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
16	though	though	SCONJ	IN	_	21	mark	_	_
17	some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	21	nsubj	_	_
18	of	of	ADP	IN	_	19	case	_	_
19	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	17	nmod	_	_
20	still	still	ADV	RB	_	21	advmod	_	_
21	grumbled	grumble	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
22	about	about	ADP	IN	_	23	case	_	_
23	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	21	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | past | they |  |  |  |  | kinda *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **admit** *speech: other* | to-infinitive | they *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn confess-37.10 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **is a** | past | he | top dog |  |  |  | of the whole crew | tree rules |
| 4 | **grumble** *speech: other* | past | some |  |  |  | still | about crew | vn complain-37.8 «NP V PP.topic»: agent=Agent about it=Topic |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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