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title: So the old man said madness is wisdom, that's so sick, yeah? — Yellow Fairy Book, The Three Oranges,… · tree and pragmatics
description: So the old man said madness is wisdom, that's so sick, yeah? Test 4 · ★ of lesson 1563 «Yellow Fairy Book, The Three Oranges, part 60: Désiré oils the gate, pleases the helpers, and reaches a thirsty sandy plain» of the books course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics o
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# Test 4 · ★ · Yellow Fairy Book, The Three Oranges, part 60: Désiré oils…

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So the old man said madness is wisdom, that's so sick, yeah?

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**Mova's choice:** option 3 · **The right answer:** option 2 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** old man, that · **What happens:** say, be · **To what, where:** madness wisdom · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 4 · ★ of lesson 1563 «Yellow Fairy Book, The Three Oranges, part 60: Désiré oils the gate, pleases the helpers, and reaches a thirsty sandy plain» of the books course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/books/1563-pg540-part60/#t4).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1563-pg540-part60:t4:1
# text = So the old man said madness is wisdom, that's so sick, yeah?
1	So	so	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
3	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	amod	_	_
4	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
5	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	madness	madness	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	compound	_	_
7	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	8	cop	_	_
8	wisdom	wisdom	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
10	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	13	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	cop	_	_
12	so	so	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	_
13	sick	sick	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
15	yeah	yeah	INTJ	UH	_	13	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | the old man |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is a** | present |  | madness wisdom |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present | that |  |  |  |  | sick *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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Yep, dreamy kids turn out smart

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1563-pg540-part60:t4:o1:1
# text = Yep, dreamy kids turn out smart
1	Yep	yep	INTJ	UH	_	5	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	dreamy	dreamy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	amod	_	_
4	kids	kid	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
5	turn	turn	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	out	out	ADP	RP	_	5	compound:prt	_	_
7	smart	smart	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **turn out** | present | dreamy kids |  |  |  |  | smart *property* | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

### Option 2 · ✓ the right answer {#o2}

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Yep, being wild and dreamy when young is smart

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1563-pg540-part60:t4:o2:1
# text = Yep, being wild and dreamy when young is smart
1	Yep	yep	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	being	be	AUX	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	4	cop	_	_
4	wild	wild	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
6	dreamy	dreamy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
7	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	8	advmod	_	_
8	young	young	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	advcl	_	_
9	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
10	smart	smart	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | wild *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **be** |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | smart *property* | tree rules |

### Option 3 · ← Mova's choice {#o3}

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Nope, he said madness is wisdom but only if you're old and grey and wise at the same time

<!-- fold The tree, 20 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1563-pg540-part60:t4:o3:1
# text = Nope, he said madness is wisdom but only if you're old and grey and wise at the same time
1	Nope	nope	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	madness	madness	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	compound	_	_
6	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
7	wisdom	wisdom	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
8	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	13	cc	_	_
9	only	only	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	_
10	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	13	mark	_	_
11	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	13	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	cop	_	_
13	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
14	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	15	cc	_	_
15	grey	grey	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	13	conj	_	_
16	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	17	cc	_	_
17	wise	wise	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	13	conj	_	_
18	at	at	ADP	IN	_	21	case	_	_
19	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	21	det	_	_
20	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	21	amod	_	_
21	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | he |  |  |  | time |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is a** | present |  | madness wisdom |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** *a condition, not said to happen* | present | you |  |  |  |  | old *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **be** |  | you *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **be** |  | you *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Yep, being wild and dreamy when you're young is actually super smart, and the old guy totally meant it

<!-- fold The tree, 20 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1563-pg540-part60:t4:o4:1
# text = Yep, being wild and dreamy when you're young is actually super smart, and the old guy totally meant it
1	Yep	yep	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	being	be	AUX	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	4	cop	_	_
4	wild	wild	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	advcl	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
6	dreamy	dreamy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
7	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	10	advmod	_	_
8	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
10	young	young	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	advcl	_	_
11	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	cop	_	_
12	actually	actually	ADV	RB	_	14	advmod	_	_
13	super	super	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	smart	smart	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
16	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	21	cc	_	_
17	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	19	det	_	_
18	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	19	amod	_	_
19	guy	guy	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	nsubj	_	_
20	totally	totally	ADV	RB	_	21	advmod	_	_
21	meant	mean	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	14	parataxis	_	_
22	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	21	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | wild *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **be** |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present | you |  |  |  |  | young *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | actually, smart *property* | tree rules |
| 5 | **mean** | past | the old guy | it |  |  |  | totally *property* | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

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