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title: Did the fish-lad say the troll's words to turn back into a man? — Popular Tales from the Norse, The Lad… · tree and pragmatics
description: Did the fish-lad say the troll's words to turn back into a man? Test 8 · ★ of lesson 1655 «Popular Tales from the Norse, The Lad and the Troll, part 44: the lad serves the troll as hare, raven and fish, and meets the troll's daughter» of the books course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency
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# Test 8 · ★ · Popular Tales from the Norse, The Lad and the Troll, part…

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Did the fish-lad say the troll's words to turn back into a man?

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**Mova's choice:** option 3 · **The right answer:** option 3 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** fish lad, troll · **What happens:** say, turn back, word · **To what, where:** words · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 8 · ★ of lesson 1655 «Popular Tales from the Norse, The Lad and the Troll, part 44: the lad serves the troll as hare, raven and fish, and meets the troll's daughter» of the books course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/books/1655-pg5615-part44/#t8).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1655-pg5615-part44:t8:1
# text = Did the fish-lad say the troll's words to turn back into a man?
1	Did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
3	fish	fish	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	compound	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	lad	lad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
6	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	troll	troll	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	's	's	PART	POS	_	8	case	_	_
10	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	obj	_	_
11	to	to	PART	TO	_	12	mark	_	_
12	turn	turn	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	6	advcl	_	_
13	back	back	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
14	into	into	ADP	IN	_	16	case	_	_
15	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past · do-support | the fish lad | the troll's words |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent word=Topic |
| 2 | **turn back** | to-infinitive | the fish lad *not said here* |  |  |  |  | into a man | vn banish-10.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **word** |  | the troll |  |  |  |  |  | nom word «communication transitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Nope, he just sat there sulking

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1655-pg5615-part44:t8:o1:1
# text = Nope, he just sat there sulking
1	Nope	nope	INTJ	UH	_	5	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
4	just	just	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	sat	sit	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	there	there	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	5	advmod	_	_
7	sulking	sulk	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	5	advcl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **sit** | past | he |  |  | there |  |  | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **sulk** | gerund | he *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn marvel-31.3 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |

### Option 2 {#o2}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Yeah, he shouted something random

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1655-pg5615-part44:t8:o2:1
# text = Yeah, he shouted something random
1	Yeah	yeah	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	shouted	shout	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	4	obj	_	_
6	random	random	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **shout** *speech: express* | past | he | something |  |  |  |  | vn manner\_speaking-37.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent something=Topic |

### Option 3 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Yeah, he remembered them and said them

```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1655-pg5615-part44:t8:o3:1
# text = Yeah, he remembered them and said them
1	Yeah	yeah	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	remembered	remember	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	obj	_	_
6	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
7	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
8	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **remember** | past | he | them *= they* |  |  |  |  | vn characterize-29.2-1-1 «NP V NP S\_ING»: agent=Agent they=Theme |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | he *not said here* | them *= they* |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent they=Topic |

### Option 4 {#o4}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Nah, he tried but he forgot the words, so he stayed a fish for ages, bruh

<!-- fold The tree, 16 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:books:1655-pg5615-part44:t8:o4:1
# text = Nah, he tried but he forgot the words, so he stayed a fish for ages, bruh
1	Nah	nah	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	tried	try	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
6	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	forgot	forget	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
8	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
11	so	so	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	_
12	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	13	nsubj	_	_
13	stayed	stay	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
14	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	15	det	_	_
15	fish	fish	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	obj	_	_
16	for	for	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
17	ages	age	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	13	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
19	bruh	bruh	INTJ	UH	_	4	discourse	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **try** | past | he |  |  |  |  |  | vn amuse-31.1 «NP V ADV-Middle»: agent=Experiencer |
| 2 | **forget** | past | he | the words |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **stay** | past | he | a fish |  |  | for ages |  | vn lodge-46 «NP V ADV»: agent=Theme fish=Location |

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