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title: Josh says, "The loudest side wins, innit." Put him right. — Debating and discussion · tree and pragmatics
description: Josh says, "The loudest side wins, innit." Put him right. Test 1 · ★ of lesson 49 «Debating and discussion» of the English course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 1 · ★ · Debating and discussion

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Josh says, "The loudest side wins, innit." Put him right.

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Josh, loudest side, you · **What happens:** say, win, innit, put · **To what, where:** side · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 1 · ★ of lesson 49 «Debating and discussion» of the English course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/english/49-debating-and-discussion/#t1).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Josh says, "The loudest side wins, innit."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:1
# text = Josh says, "The loudest side wins, innit."
1	Josh	Josh	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
4	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	8	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	loudest	loud	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	7	amod	_	_
7	side	side	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	_
8	wins	win	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
10	innit	innit	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	8	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	2	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Josh |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **win** *in a quote* | present | the loudest side |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **innit** *in a quote* | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Put him right.

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:2
# text = Put him right.
1	Put	put	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	1	obj	_	_
3	right	right	ADV	RB	_	1	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **put** | imperative | you *not said here* |  | side |  |  | right *property* | vn invest-13.5.4-1 «NP V PP»: agent=Agent he=Goal |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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Nobody wins debates, so it does not matter

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:o1:1
# text = Nobody wins debates, so it does not matter
1	Nobody	nobody	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	2	nsubj	_	_
2	wins	win	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	debates	debate	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	2	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
5	so	so	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
6	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	_
7	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	aux	_	_
8	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	9	advmod	_	_
9	matter	matter	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	parataxis	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **win** | present | Nobody | debates |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent debate=Eventuality |
| 2 | **not** **matter** | present · do-support | it |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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The judge always picks the loudest side

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:o2:1
# text = The judge always picks the loudest side
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	judge	judge	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	4	advmod	_	_
4	picks	pick	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	loudest	loud	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	7	amod	_	_
7	side	side	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **pick** | present | the judge | the loudest side |  |  |  | always *property* | vn chew-39.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent side=Patient |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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Reasons and evidence persuade, not volume

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:o3:1
# text = Reasons and evidence persuade, not volume
1	Reasons	reason	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nsubj	_	_
2	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	3	cc	_	_
3	evidence	evidence	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	conj	_	_
4	persuade	persuade	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
6	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	7	advmod	_	_
7	volume	volume	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **persuade** | present | Reasons and evidence | volume |  |  |  |  | vn compel-59.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent |

### Option 4 {#o4}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Volume counts, but only in the final round

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t1:o4:1
# text = Volume counts, but only in the final round
1	Volume	volume	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	counts	count	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
4	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
5	only	only	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
6	in	in	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
8	final	final	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	amod	_	_
9	round	round	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **count** | present | Volume |  |  | the final round |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |

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