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title: Isla says, "That's cap, homework's never helped anyone, ever." Which… — Debating and discussion · tree and pragmatics
description: Isla says, "That's cap, homework's never helped anyone, ever." Which reply is the best rebuttal? Test 7 · ★ of lesson 49 «Debating and discussion» of the English course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 7 · ★ · Debating and discussion

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Isla says, "That's cap, homework's never helped anyone, ever." Which reply is the best rebuttal?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Isla, cap, reply · **What happens:** say, be, not help · **To what, where:** cap, anyone, best rebuttal · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 7 · ★ of lesson 49 «Debating and discussion» of the English course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/english/49-debating-and-discussion/#t7).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Isla says, "That's cap, homework's never helped anyone, ever."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:1
# text = Isla says, "That's cap, homework's never helped anyone, ever."
1	Isla	Isla	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
4	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	7	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	That	that	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	7	det	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
7	cap	cap	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
9	homework	homework	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	's	's	PART	POS	_	9	case	_	_
11	never	never	ADV	RB	PronType=Neg	12	advmod	_	_
12	helped	help	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	2	ccomp	_	_
13	anyone	anyone	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	12	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
15	ever	ever	ADV	RB	PronType=Ind	12	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	2	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Isla |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **is a** *in a quote* | present |  | that cap and homework |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **not** **help** *in a quote* | past | that cap and homework |  | anyone |  | ever |  | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent anyone=Beneficiary |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Which reply is the best rebuttal?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:2
# text = Which reply is the best rebuttal?
1	Which	which	DET	WDT	PronType=Int	2	det	_	_
2	reply	reply	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	6	amod	_	_
6	rebuttal	rebuttal	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | which reply | the best rebuttal |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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"No, you're cap, and so is your face, and your mate's face."

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:o1:1
# text = "No, you're cap, and so is your face, and your mate's face."
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	6	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
4	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
6	cap	cap	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	12	cc	_	_
9	so	so	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
10	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	12	cop	_	_
11	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	12	nmod:poss	_	_
12	face	face	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
14	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	18	cc	_	_
15	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	16	nmod:poss	_	_
16	mate	mate	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	18	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	's	's	PART	POS	_	16	case	_	_
18	face	face	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
20	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	6	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** *in a quote* | present | you | cap and your face and your mate's face |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** *in a quote* | present | you *not said here* | your face |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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"Homework is good, end of, because I said it is."

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:o2:1
# text = "Homework is good, end of, because I said it is."
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	Homework	homework	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
6	end	end	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
7	of	of	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
9	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	11	mark	_	_
10	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	_
11	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	13	nsubj	_	_
13	is	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** *in a quote* | present | Homework |  |  |  | of end | good *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **be** *in a quote* | present | Homework |  |  |  |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
"Our spelling scores rose with home practice, so it helped us."

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:o3:1
# text = "Our spelling scores rose with home practice, so it helped us."
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	Our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	3	nmod:poss	_	_
3	spelling	spelling	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	scores	score	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	rose	rose	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
6	with	with	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
7	home	home	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	compound	_	_
8	practice	practice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
10	so	so	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
11	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
12	helped	help	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	parataxis	_	_
13	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	12	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **score** *in a quote* | present | Our spelling | rose |  |  |  | with home practice | vn get-13.5.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent rose=Theme |
| 2 | **help** *in a quote* | past | spelling |  | us |  |  |  | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent we=Beneficiary |
| 3 | **spell** *in a quote* |  | Our |  |  |  |  |  | nom spelling «communication transitive»: poss=agent |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice {#o4}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
"Okay, fine, you win, I give up, there's no point."

<!-- fold The tree, 11 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:english:49-debating-and-discussion:t7:o4:1
# text = "Okay, fine, you win, I give up, there's no point."
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	10	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	Okay	okay	INTJ	UH	_	10	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
4	fine	fine	INTJ	UH	_	7	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
6	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	win	win	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
9	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
10	give	give	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
11	up	up	ADP	RP	_	10	compound:prt	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	14	punct	_	_
13	there	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	14	expl	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	's	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	10	advcl	_	_
15	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	16	det	_	_
16	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	10	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	10	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **win** *in a quote* | present | you |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **give up** *in a quote* | present | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn resign-10.11-2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **be** *in a quote* | present | no point |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

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