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title: «dad said no boxing, so that's that forever». Is it? — Maddie the tomboy · tree and pragmatics
description: «dad said no boxing, so that's that forever». Is it? Test 8 of lesson 378 «Maddie the tomboy» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 8 · Maddie the tomboy

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«dad said no boxing, so that's that forever». Is it?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 2 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** dad, that, boxing · **What happens:** say, be · **To what, where:** boxing · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 8 of lesson 378 «Maddie the tomboy» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/everyday/378-maddie-the-tomboy/#t8).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* «dad said no boxing, so that's that forever».

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:1
# text = «dad said no boxing, so that's that forever».
1	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	dad	dad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	5	det	_	_
5	boxing	boxing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
7	so	so	SCONJ	IN	_	11	mark	_	_
8	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	11	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	cop	_	_
10	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	11	nsubj	_	_
11	forever	forever	ADV	RB	_	3	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	11	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past | dad | no boxing |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent boxing=Topic |
| 2 | **is** *in a quote* | present | that |  |  |  |  | forever *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Is it?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:2
# text = Is it?
1	Is	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	1	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | present | boxing |  |  |  |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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Yes, parents never change their minds

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:o1:1
# text = Yes, parents never change their minds
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	5	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	parents	parent	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
4	never	never	ADV	RB	PronType=Neg	5	advmod	_	_
5	change	change	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	7	nmod:poss	_	_
7	minds	mind	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **change** | present | parents | parents's minds |  |  |  |  | vn dress-41.1.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent mind=Patient |
| 2 | **mind** |  | parents *= parent* |  |  |  |  |  | nom mind «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

### Option 2 · ✓ the right answer {#o2}

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Not always, talking calmly can change a parent's mind

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:o2:1
# text = Not always, talking calmly can change a parent's mind
1	Not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	2	advmod	_	_
2	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	7	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
4	talking	talk	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	7	csubj	_	_
5	calmly	calmly	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
6	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	_
7	change	change	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
8	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	parent	parent	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	's	's	PART	POS	_	9	case	_	_
11	mind	mind	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **talk** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | calmly *property* | vn talk-37.5 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **change** | can | talking | a parent's mind |  |  |  | always *property* | vn dress-41.1.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent mind=Patient |
| 3 | **mind** |  | a parent |  |  |  |  |  | nom mind «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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Yes, unless she sulks for long enough to make him give in

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:o3:1
# text = Yes, unless she sulks for long enough to make him give in
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	5	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	5	punct	_	_
3	unless	unless	SCONJ	IN	_	5	mark	_	_
4	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
5	sulks	sulk	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	for	for	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	long	long	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	5	obj	_	_
8	enough	enough	ADV	RB	_	7	advmod	_	_
9	to	to	PART	TO	_	10	mark	_	_
10	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	advcl	_	_
11	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	obj	_	_
12	give	give	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	10	xcomp	_	_
13	in	in	ADP	IN	_	12	compound:prt	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **sulk** | present | she |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **make** | to-infinitive | she *not said here* | him *= he* |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **give in** | infinitive | him *= he* *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn acquiesce-95.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice {#o4}

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No, she can just go without telling him

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:378-maddie-the-tomboy:t8:o4:1
# text = No, she can just go without telling him
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	6	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
4	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
5	just	just	ADV	RB	_	6	advmod	_	_
6	go	go	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
7	without	without	SCONJ	IN	_	8	mark	_	_
8	telling	tell	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	6	advcl	_	_
9	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	8	iobj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **go** | can | she |  |  |  |  |  | vn disappearance-48.2-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **tell** *speech: assert* | gerund | she *not said here* |  | him *= he* |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1-1 «NP V NP.recipient»: agent=Agent he=Recipient |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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