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title: Max says saying sorry is for losers. right? — Manners and kindness · tree and pragmatics
description: Max says saying sorry is for losers. right? Test 16 of lesson 51 «Manners and kindness» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 16 · Manners and kindness

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Max says saying sorry is for losers. right?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Max, saying · **What happens:** say, be · **To what, where:** sorry · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 16 of lesson 51 «Manners and kindness» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/everyday/51-manners-and-kindness/#t16).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:51-manners-and-kindness:t16:1
# text = Max says saying sorry is for losers. right?
1	Max	Max	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	saying	say	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	7	csubj	_	_
4	sorry	sorry	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	obj	_	_
5	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
6	for	for	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	losers	loser	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	2	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
9	right	right	INTJ	UH	_	2	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Max |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund |  | sorry |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent sorry=Topic |
| 3 | **is** | present | saying |  |  |  |  | for losers | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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Yes, it shows you are weak

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:51-manners-and-kindness:t16:o1:1
# text = Yes, it shows you are weak
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	shows	show	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
6	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
7	weak	weak	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	ccomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **show** | present | it |  |  |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is** | present | you |  |  |  |  | weak *property* | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Yes, unless an adult stands there and makes you say it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:51-manners-and-kindness:t16:o2:1
# text = Yes, unless an adult stands there and makes you say it
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	6	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
3	unless	unless	SCONJ	IN	_	6	mark	_	_
4	an	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
5	adult	adult	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
6	stands	stand	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
7	there	there	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	6	advmod	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
9	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
10	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	9	obj	_	_
11	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	9	xcomp	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **stand** | present | a adult |  |  | there |  |  | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **make** | present | a adult *not said here* | you |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | infinitive | you *not said here* | adult |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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No, saying sorry helps fix things after a mistake

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:51-manners-and-kindness:t16:o3:1
# text = No, saying sorry helps fix things after a mistake
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	3	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	saying	say	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	5	csubj	_	_
4	sorry	sorry	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	xcomp	_	_
5	helps	help	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	fix	fix	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	xcomp	_	_
7	things	thing	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	obj	_	_
8	after	after	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	mistake	mistake	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: apologize* | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | sorry *property* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **help** | present | saying |  |  |  |  |  | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Theme |
| 3 | **fix** | infinitive | saying *not said here* | things |  |  | after a mistake |  | vn shake-22.3-2 «NP V NP together»: agent=Agent thing=Patient |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Yes, people forget anyway

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:51-manners-and-kindness:t16:o4:1
# text = Yes, people forget anyway
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nsubj	_	_
4	forget	forget	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	anyway	anyway	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **forget** | present | people |  |  |  |  | anyway *property* | tree rules |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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