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title: Kwame's mate says «sorry for ur loss bro» for the tenth time. Why do… — When a parent has died · tree and pragmatics
description: Kwame's mate says «sorry for ur loss bro» for the tenth time. Why do people keep saying it? Test 8 · ★★ of lesson 518 «When a parent has died» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was right.
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# Test 8 · ★★ · When a parent has died

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Kwame's mate says «sorry for ur loss bro» for the tenth time. Why do people keep saying it?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 4 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** mate, people · **What happens:** say, keep · **To what, where:** sorry · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 8 · ★★ of lesson 518 «When a parent has died» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/everyday/518-when-a-parent-has-died/#t8).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Kwame's mate says «sorry for ur loss bro» for the tenth time.

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:1
# text = Kwame's mate says «sorry for ur loss bro» for the tenth time.
1	Kwame	Kwame	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	's	PART	POS	_	1	case	_	_
3	mate	mate	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	sorry	sorry	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	obj	_	_
7	for	for	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
8	ur	your	PRON	PRP$	Abbr=Yes|Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	10	nmod:poss	_	_
9	loss	loss	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	compound	_	_
10	bro	bro	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	6	punct	_	_
12	for	for	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
13	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	15	det	_	_
14	tenth	tenth	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	amod	_	_
15	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Kwame's mate | sorry |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent sorry=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Why do people keep saying it?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:2
# text = Why do people keep saying it?
1	Why	why	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	4	advmod	_	_
2	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	_
3	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nsubj	_	_
4	keep	keep	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
5	saying	say	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	4	xcomp	_	_
6	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **keep** | present · do-support | people |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund | people *not said here* | sorry |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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It's the only thing people are allowed to say

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:o1:1
# text = It's the only thing people are allowed to say
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	only	only	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
5	thing	thing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
6	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj:pass	_	_
7	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	8	aux:pass	_	_
8	allowed	allow	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	5	acl:relcl	_	_
9	to	to	PART	TO	_	10	mark	_	_
10	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	8	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | It | the only thing |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **allow** | present · passive | the only thing *not said here* | people |  |  |  |  | vn allow-64.1-1 «NP V NP S»: subject=Beneficiary clause=Eventuality |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | people *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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They are trying to make Kwame feel even worse

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:o2:1
# text = They are trying to make Kwame feel even worse
1	They	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
2	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	aux	_	_
3	trying	try	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
4	to	to	PART	TO	_	5	mark	_	_
5	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	xcomp	_	_
6	Kwame	Kwame	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	5	obj	_	_
7	feel	feel	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	xcomp	_	_
8	even	even	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	worse	bad	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	7	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **try** | present · progressive | They |  |  |  |  |  | vn try-61.1 «NP V S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Eventuality |
| 2 | **make** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | They *not said here* | Kwame |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **feel** *not said to happen* | infinitive | Kwame *not said here* |  |  |  |  | bad *property* | vn stimulus\_subject-30.4 «NP V ADJ»: agent=Stimulus |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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Teachers make them say it every morning

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:o3:1
# text = Teachers make them say it every morning
1	Teachers	teacher	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	2	nsubj	_	_
2	make	make	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	obj	_	_
4	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	xcomp	_	_
5	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	obj	_	_
6	every	every	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	7	det	_	_
7	morning	morning	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl:unmarked	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **make** | present | Teachers | them *= they* |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | infinitive | them *= they* *not said here* | it |  |  | morning |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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They mean well and don't know what else to say

```conllu
# sent_id = question:everyday:518-when-a-parent-has-died:t8:o4:1
# text = They mean well and don't know what else to say
1	They	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	mean	mean	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	well	well	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	2	advmod	_	_
4	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
5	do	do	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	7	advmod	_	_
7	know	know	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	conj	_	_
8	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	11	obj	_	_
9	else	else	ADV	RB	_	8	advmod	_	_
10	to	to	PART	TO	_	11	mark	_	_
11	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	ccomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **mean** | present | They |  |  |  |  | well *property* | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **not** **know** | infinitive · do-support | They *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V how S\_INF»: agent=Experiencer clause=Stimulus |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | to-infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent what=Topic |

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