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# Test 4 · ★ · Ideas on the move: numbers, paper, letters, chess and news

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Ethan: "Confucius, Buddha and Socrates lived at the same time? Did they, like, have a group chat?" Best answer?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 1 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** Ethan · **What happens:** live, do, have · **To what, where:** group chat

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This is test 4 · ★ of lesson 75 «Ideas on the move: numbers, paper, letters, chess and news» of the history course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/history/75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news/#t4).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Ethan: "Confucius, Buddha and Socrates lived at the same time?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:1
# text = Ethan: "Confucius, Buddha and Socrates lived at the same time?
1	Ethan	Ethan	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	4	punct	_	_
3	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	Confucius	Confucius	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	1	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
6	Buddha	Buddha	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	4	conj	_	_
7	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	8	cc	_	_
8	Socrates	Socrates	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	1	conj	_	_
9	lived	live	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
10	at	at	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
11	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
12	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	13	amod	_	_
13	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	9	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **live** *in a quote* | past | Ethan and Confucius and Buddha and Socrates |  |  |  | time |  | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Did they, like, have a group chat?"

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:2
# text = Did they, like, have a group chat?"
1	Did	do	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	1	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
4	like	like	SCONJ	IN	_	6	mark	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
6	have	have	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	parataxis	_	_
7	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
8	group	group	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	compound	_	_
9	chat	chat	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **do** | past | Ethan |  |  |  |  |  | vn act-114-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **have** | present |  | a group chat |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent chat=Patient |

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*Sentence 3:* Best answer?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:3
# text = Best answer?
1	Best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	2	amod	_	_
2	answer	answer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

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The frames reader finds no event or fact in this sentence.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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No, they lived far apart and never knew of each other

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:o1:1
# text = No, they lived far apart and never knew of each other
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	lived	live	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	far	far	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	6	advmod	_	_
6	apart	apart	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
7	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
8	never	never	ADV	RB	PronType=Neg	9	advmod	_	_
9	knew	know	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
10	of	of	ADP	IN	_	11	case	_	_
11	each	each	DET	DT	ExtPos=PRON|PronType=Rcp	9	obl	_	_
12	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	fixed	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **live** | past | they |  |  |  |  | apart *property* | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **not** **know** | past | they *not said here* |  |  |  |  | of each | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V PP.stimulus»: agent=Experiencer of each=Stimulus |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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They were all the same person

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:o2:1
# text = They were all the same person
1	They	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
2	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
3	all	all	DET	PDT	PronType=Tot	6	det:predet	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | past | They | all same person |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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Yes, they met up in Athens once a year

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:o3:1
# text = Yes, they met up in Athens once a year
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
3	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	met	meet	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	up	up	ADP	RP	_	4	compound:prt	_	_
6	in	in	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	Athens	Athens	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
8	once	once	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Mult	4	advmod	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	year	year	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	obl:unmarked	_	_
```

<!-- .fr -->
| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **meet up** | past | they |  |  | Athens |  | once *property* | vn meet-36.3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 4 {#o4}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Yes, sort of: they sent notes by carrier pigeon every week

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:75-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news:t4:o4:1
# text = Yes, sort of: they sent notes by carrier pigeon every week
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	3	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	sort	sort	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	parataxis	_	_
4	of	of	ADP	IN	_	3	fixed	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	7	punct	_	_
6	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	sent	send	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
8	notes	note	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	obj	_	_
9	by	by	ADP	IN	_	11	case	_	_
10	carrier	carrier	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	compound	_	_
11	pigeon	pigeon	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obl	_	_
12	every	every	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	13	det	_	_
13	week	week	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obl:unmarked	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **send** | past | they | notes |  |  | week | by carrier pigeon | vn confine-92-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent note=Theme |

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