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# Test 8 · ★★ · Alice's Victorian world: tea, croquet, pocket watches, shi…

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«Nan says one old shilling is the same as 5p now» Is she right, if 20 shillings made a pound?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 4 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Nan, one old shilling, 20 shillings · **What happens:** say, be, make · **To what, where:** pound · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 8 · ★★ of lesson 81 «Alice's Victorian world: tea, croquet, pocket watches, shillings and chimney sweeps» of the history course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/history/81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps/#t8).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps:t8:1
# text = «Nan says one old shilling is the same as 5p now» Is she right, if 20 shillings made a pound?
1	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	Nan	Nan	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	17	advcl	_	_
4	one	one	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	6	nummod	_	_
5	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	shilling	shilling	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
7	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
8	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	ccomp	_	_
10	as	as	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
11	5	5	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	12	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obl	_	_
13	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	9	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	3	punct	_	_
15	Is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	17	cop	_	_
16	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	17	nsubj	_	_
17	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	22	punct	_	_
19	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	22	mark	_	_
20	20	20	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	21	nummod	_	_
21	shillings	shilling	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	22	nsubj	_	_
22	made	make	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	17	conj	_	_
23	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	24	det	_	_
24	pound	pound	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	22	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	17	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | present | Nan |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is** *in a quote* | present | one old shilling |  |  |  | now | as 5 p; same *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present | Nan |  |  |  |  | right *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **make** *a condition, not said to happen* | past | 20 shillings | a pound |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.material V NP»: agent=Material pound=Product |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
No: a shilling was a tenth of a pound, so it is 10p now

<!-- fold The tree, 15 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps:t8:o1:1
# text = No: a shilling was a tenth of a pound, so it is 10p now
1	No	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	7	det	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	7	punct	_	_
3	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	shilling	shilling	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	nsubj	_	_
5	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
6	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	tenth	tenth	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
8	of	of	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	pound	pound	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	16	punct	_	_
12	so	so	ADV	RB	_	16	advmod	_	_
13	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	16	nsubj	_	_
14	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	cop	_	_
15	10	10	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	16	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	conj	_	_
17	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	16	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | past | a shilling | no tenth and 10 p |  |  |  | of a pound | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** | present | shilling | 10 p |  |  | now |  | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
No: a shilling was worth more than a pound, about 120p

```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps:t8:o2:1
# text = No: a shilling was worth more than a pound, about 120p
1	No	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	6	det	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	6	punct	_	_
3	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	shilling	shilling	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
5	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
6	worth	worth	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
7	more	more	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	6	obj	_	_
8	than	than	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	pound	pound	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	14	punct	_	_
12	about	about	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	_
13	120	120	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	14	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | past | a shilling |  |  |  |  | 120 p *obl*; worth *property* | tree rules |

### Option 3 {#o3}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
No: a shilling had 12 pennies in it, so it is 12p now

<!-- fold The tree, 14 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps:t8:o3:1
# text = No: a shilling had 12 pennies in it, so it is 12p now
1	No	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	4	det	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	4	punct	_	_
3	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	shilling	shilling	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
5	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	12	12	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	7	nummod	_	_
7	pennies	penny	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	obj	_	_
8	in	in	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
9	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
11	so	so	ADV	RB	_	15	advmod	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	15	nsubj	_	_
13	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	15	cop	_	_
14	12	12	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	15	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	conj	_	_
16	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	15	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | past | no shilling | 12 pennies |  | it |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent penny=Patient |
| 2 | **is a** | present | shilling | 12 p |  |  | now |  | tree rules |

### Option 4 · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
Yes: a pound is now 100p, and a twentieth of 100p is 5p

<!-- fold The tree, 16 words -->
```conllu
# sent_id = question:history:81-alice-s-victorian-world-tea-croquet-pocket-watches-shillings-and-chimney-sweeps:t8:o4:1
# text = Yes: a pound is now 100p, and a twentieth of 100p is 5p
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	8	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	1	punct	_	_
3	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	pound	pound	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	_
5	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	8	cop	_	_
6	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	8	advmod	_	_
7	100	100	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	8	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
10	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	18	cc	_	_
11	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
12	twentieth	twentieth	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	18	nsubj	_	_
13	of	of	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
14	100	100	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	15	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	nmod	_	_
16	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	18	cop	_	_
17	5	5	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	18	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	p	p	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	conj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | a pound | 100 p and 5 p |  |  | now |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** | present | a twentieth of 100 p | 5 p |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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