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title: Max says, "Red kit = win, a study proved it, so I'll win Saturday."… — How would we know? Asking experts and… · tree and pragmatics
description: Max says, "Red kit = win, a study proved it, so I'll win Saturday." What's the sensible view? Test 2 · ★★ of lesson 30 «How would we know? Asking experts and spotting tricks» of the myths course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mov
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# Test 2 · ★★ · How would we know? Asking experts and spotting tricks

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Max says, "Red kit = win, a study proved it, so I'll win Saturday." What's the sensible view?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 2 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Max, study, sensible view · **What happens:** say, prove, win, be · **To what, where:** Red kit, win · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 2 · ★★ of lesson 30 «How would we know? Asking experts and spotting tricks» of the myths course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/myths/30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks/#t2).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Max says, "Red kit = win, a study proved it, so I'll win Saturday."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:1
# text = Max says, "Red kit = win, a study proved it, so I'll win Saturday."
1	Max	Max	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
4	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	Red	red	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	kit	kit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	obl	_	_
7	=	=	SYM	SYM	_	8	punct	_	_
8	win	win	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
10	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	study	study	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	nsubj	_	_
12	proved	prove	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	acl:relcl	_	_
13	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	12	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
15	so	so	ADV	RB	_	18	advmod	_	_
16	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	18	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	'll	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	18	aux	_	_
18	win	win	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	ccomp	_	_
19	Saturday	Saturday	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	18	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
20	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	18	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
21	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	18	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Max | Red kit and win |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **prove** *in a quote* | past | a study | win |  |  |  |  | vn deduce-97.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Theme |
| 3 | **win** *in a quote* | future | Max |  |  |  | saturday |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What's the sensible view?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:2
# text = What's the sensible view?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	sensible	sensible	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
5	view	view	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | the sensible view |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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He's sure to win if he wears red

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:o1:1
# text = He's sure to win if he wears red
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	sure	sure	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
4	to	to	PART	TO	_	5	mark	_	_
5	win	win	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	xcomp	_	_
6	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	8	mark	_	_
7	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	8	nsubj	_	_
8	wears	wear	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	advcl	_	_
9	red	red	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | He |  |  |  |  | sure *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **win** | to-infinitive | He *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **wear** *a condition, not said to happen* | present | he |  |  |  |  | red *property* | vn wipe\_manner-10.4.1-1 «NP V PP-Conative»: agent=Agent |

### Option 2 · ✓ the right answer {#o2}

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The effect was small and argued about; training matters far more

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:o2:1
# text = The effect was small and argued about; training matters far more
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	effect	effect	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	small	small	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
6	argued	argue	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	4	conj	_	_
7	about	about	ADP	IN	_	6	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	10	punct	_	_
9	training	training	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
10	matters	matter	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	parataxis	_	_
11	far	far	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	12	advmod	_	_
12	more	more	ADV	RBR	Degree=Cmp	10	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | past | the effect |  |  |  |  | small *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **argue** *speech: disagree* | participle | the effect *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **matter** | present | training |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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The study proved blue makes you lose

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:o3:1
# text = The study proved blue makes you lose
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	study	study	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
3	proved	prove	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	2	acl:relcl	_	_
4	blue	blue	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	xcomp	_	_
5	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	5	obj	_	_
7	lose	lose	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **prove** | past | the study *not said here* |  |  |  |  | blue *property* | vn declare-29.4-1-1 «NP V what S\_INF»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **make** | present | the study | you |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **lose** | infinitive | you *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Red kit makes the other team lose

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t2:o4:1
# text = Red kit makes the other team lose
1	Red	red	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	2	amod	_	_
2	kit	kit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	team	team	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	_
7	lose	lose	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **make** | present | Red kit | the other team |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **lose** | present | the other team *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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