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# Test 9 · ★★ · How would we know? Asking experts and spotting tricks

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Elsie's dad thinks the grape warning is "just another myth". What should she say?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 4 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** dad, grape warning, Elsie · **What happens:** think, be, say · **To what, where:** myth · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 9 · ★★ of lesson 30 «How would we know? Asking experts and spotting tricks» of the myths course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/myths/30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks/#t9).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Elsie's dad thinks the grape warning is "just another myth".

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:1
# text = Elsie's dad thinks the grape warning is "just another myth".
1	Elsie	Elsie	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	's	PART	POS	_	1	case	_	_
3	dad	dad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	thinks	think	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	grape	grape	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	compound	_	_
7	warning	warning	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	nsubj	_	_
8	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	12	cop	_	_
9	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	12	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	just	just	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
11	another	another	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	12	det	_	_
12	myth	myth	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	12	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **think** *speech: other* | present | Elsie's dad |  |  |  |  |  | vn focus-87.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is a** *in a quote* | present | the grape warning | another myth |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What should she say?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:2
# text = What should she say?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	4	obj	_	_
2	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	_
3	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | should | Elsie |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent what=Topic |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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He's right, it's like nine lives

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:o1:1
# text = He's right, it's like nine lives
1	He	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
5	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
7	like	like	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
8	nine	nine	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	9	nummod	_	_
9	lives	life	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | He |  |  |  |  | right *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | present | it |  |  |  |  | like nine lives | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Raisins are fine, it's only fresh grapes that hurt

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:o2:1
# text = Raisins are fine, it's only fresh grapes that hurt
1	Raisins	raisin	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
2	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	fine	fine	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
5	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
7	only	only	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
8	fresh	fresh	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	amod	_	_
9	grapes	grape	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	parataxis	_	_
10	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	11	nsubj	_	_
11	hurt	hurt	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	acl:relcl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Raisins |  |  |  |  | fine *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** | present | it | fresh grapes |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **hurt** | present | fresh grapes |  |  |  |  |  | vn amuse-31.1 «NP V ADV-Middle»: agent=Experiencer |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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Grapes are only bad for big dogs

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:o3:1
# text = Grapes are only bad for big dogs
1	Grapes	grape	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	nsubj	_	_
2	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
3	only	only	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
4	bad	bad	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
5	for	for	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
6	big	big	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
7	dogs	dog	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Grapes |  |  |  |  | for big dogs; bad *property* | tree rules |

### Option 4 · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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This one's true, vets have seen many cases

```conllu
# sent_id = question:myths:30-how-would-we-know-asking-experts-and-spotting-tricks:t9:o4:1
# text = This one's true, vets have seen many cases
1	This	this	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	2	det	_	_
2	one	one	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	's	's	PART	POS	_	2	case	_	_
4	true	true	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
6	vets	vet	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	_
7	have	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	8	aux	_	_
8	seen	see	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
9	many	many	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	cases	case	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **see** | present · perfect | this one's true vets | many cases |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer case=Stimulus |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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