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description: Your Baptist friend says, «Baby baptism doesn't count, they didn't choose.» Your Anglican friend gets cross. What's the best-reasoned thing to say? Test 2 · ★★ of lesson 24 «Baptism, communion and confirmation» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and prag
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# Test 2 · ★★ · Baptism, communion and confirmation

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Your Baptist friend says, «Baby baptism doesn't count, they didn't choose.» Your Anglican friend gets cross. What's the best-reasoned thing to say?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 1 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** Baptist friend, Baby baptism, they, Anglican friend, best reasoned thing · **What happens:** say, not count, not choose, get, be · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 2 · ★★ of lesson 24 «Baptism, communion and confirmation» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation/#t2).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Your Baptist friend says, «Baby baptism doesn't count, they didn't choose.»

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:1
# text = Your Baptist friend says, «Baby baptism doesn't count, they didn't choose.»
1	Your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	3	nmod:poss	_	_
2	Baptist	baptist	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	friend	friend	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
6	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	11	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	Baby	baby	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	compound	_	_
8	baptism	baptism	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	nsubj	_	_
9	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	11	advmod	_	_
11	count	count	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	16	punct	_	_
13	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	16	nsubj	_	_
14	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	16	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	16	advmod	_	_
16	choose	choose	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	11	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	11	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	11	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Your Baptist friend |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **not** **count** *in a quote* | present · do-support | Baby baptism |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |
| 3 | **not** **choose** *in a quote* | past · do-support | they |  |  |  |  |  | vn get-13.5.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Your Anglican friend gets cross.

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:2
# text = Your Anglican friend gets cross.
1	Your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	3	nmod:poss	_	_
2	Anglican	anglican	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	friend	friend	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	gets	get	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	cross	cross	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	xcomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **get** | present | Your Anglican friend |  |  |  |  | cross *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Experiencer |

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*Sentence 3:* What's the best-reasoned thing to say?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:3
# text = What's the best-reasoned thing to say?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
4	best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	7	amod	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	reasoned	reasoned	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
7	thing	thing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nsubj	_	_
8	to	to	PART	TO	_	9	mark	_	_
9	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	acl	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | the best reasoned thing |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | to-infinitive | the best reasoned thing *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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Both sides have serious reasons; it is a real dispute

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:o1:1
# text = Both sides have serious reasons; it is a real dispute
1	Both	both	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	2	det	_	_
2	sides	side	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
3	have	have	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	serious	serious	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
5	reasons	reason	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	3	punct	_	_
7	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	_
8	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	cop	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
10	real	real	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	amod	_	_
11	dispute	dispute	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	parataxis	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | present | both sides | serious reasons |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent reason=Patient |
| 2 | **is a** | present | it | a real dispute |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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It doesn't matter, so stop talking about it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:o2:1
# text = It doesn't matter, so stop talking about it
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
2	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	4	advmod	_	_
4	matter	matter	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
6	so	so	ADV	RB	_	7	advmod	_	_
7	stop	stop	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	conj	_	_
8	talking	talk	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	7	xcomp	_	_
9	about	about	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	8	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **matter** | present · do-support | It |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |
| 2 | **stop** | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn stop-55.4-1-1 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Affector clause=Eventuality |
| 3 | **talk** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | about it | vn talk-37.5 «NP V PP.topic»: agent=Agent about it=Topic |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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The Anglican is right and the Baptist is wrong

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:o3:1
# text = The Anglican is right and the Baptist is wrong
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	Anglican	anglican	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	Baptist	Baptist	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
8	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
9	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | the Anglican |  |  |  |  | right *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | present | the Baptist |  |  |  |  | wrong *property* | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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The Baptist is right and the Anglican is just wrong about it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:24-baptism-communion-and-confirmation:t2:o4:1
# text = The Baptist is right and the Anglican is just wrong about it
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	Baptist	baptist	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	10	cc	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	Anglican	Anglican	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
8	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	10	cop	_	_
9	just	just	ADV	RB	_	10	advmod	_	_
10	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
11	about	about	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | the Baptist |  |  |  |  | right *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | present | the Anglican |  |  |  |  | about Baptist; wrong *property* | tree rules |

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