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description: Classmate: "Saying thank you is pointless, they had to give it to you anyway." Best-reasoned reply? Test 9 · ★ of lesson 34 «Virtues: honesty, fairness and kindness» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mo
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# Test 9 · ★ · Virtues: honesty, fairness and kindness

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Classmate: "Saying thank you is pointless, they had to give it to you anyway." Best-reasoned reply?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 4 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** Classmate, they · **What happens:** say, thank, be, have, give, reason · **To what, where:** you, Classmate, reply · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 9 · ★ of lesson 34 «Virtues: honesty, fairness and kindness» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness/#t9).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Classmate: "Saying thank you is pointless, they had to give it to you anyway."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:1
# text = Classmate: "Saying thank you is pointless, they had to give it to you anyway."
1	Classmate	classmate	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	4	punct	_	_
3	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	Saying	say	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	1	acl	_	_
5	thank	thank	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	ccomp	_	_
6	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	5	obj	_	_
7	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	8	cop	_	_
8	pointless	pointless	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
10	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	_
11	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	parataxis	_	_
12	to	to	PART	TO	_	13	mark	_	_
13	give	give	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	11	xcomp	_	_
14	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	13	obj	_	_
15	to	to	ADP	IN	_	16	case	_	_
16	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	13	obl	_	_
17	anyway	anyway	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	8	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	8	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | gerund | Classmate *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **thank** *speech: thank* *in a quote* | present |  |  | you |  |  |  | vn judgment-33.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent you=Theme |
| 3 | **is** *in a quote* | present | Classmate |  |  |  |  | pointless *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **have** *in a quote* | past | they |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **give** *in a quote* | to-infinitive | they *not said here* | Classmate | you |  |  | anyway *property* | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP PP.recipient»: agent=Agent it=Theme to you=Recipient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Best-reasoned reply?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:2
# text = Best-reasoned reply?
1	Best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	3	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	1	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	reasoned	reason	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	0	root	_	_
4	reply	reply	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **reason** | participle |  | reply |  |  |  |  | vn deduce-97.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent reply=Theme |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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Thanks is pointless, you're right, nobody needs it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:o1:1
# text = Thanks is pointless, you're right, nobody needs it
1	Thanks	thanks	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	pointless	pointless	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
5	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
7	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
9	nobody	nobody	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	10	nsubj	_	_
10	needs	need	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	parataxis	_	_
11	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Thanks |  |  |  |  | pointless *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | present | you |  |  |  |  | right *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **need** | present | nobody | Thanks |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADV»: agent=Pivot it=Theme |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Saying thanks is a rule, so just do it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:o2:1
# text = Saying thanks is a rule, so just do it
1	Saying	say	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	5	csubj	_	_
2	thanks	thanks	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	obj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
4	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
5	rule	rule	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
7	so	so	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
8	just	just	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	do	do	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	acl:relcl	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund |  | thanks |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent thanks=Topic |
| 2 | **is a** | present | Saying | a rule |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **do** | infinitive | a rule *not said here* | thanks |  |  |  |  | vn act-114-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Eventuality |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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You only say thanks so you get more next time

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:o3:1
# text = You only say thanks so you get more next time
1	You	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
2	only	only	ADV	RB	_	3	advmod	_	_
3	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	thanks	thanks	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	_
5	so	so	ADV	RB	_	7	advmod	_	_
6	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	get	get	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	advcl	_	_
8	more	more	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	10	amod	_	_
9	next	next	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | You | thanks |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent thanks=Topic |
| 2 | **get** | present | you |  |  |  | time |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Experiencer |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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Thanks shows you noticed their kindness, and it makes both of you happier

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:34-honesty-fairness-and-kindness:t9:o4:1
# text = Thanks shows you noticed their kindness, and it makes both of you happier
1	Thanks	thanks	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	shows	show	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
4	noticed	notice	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	2	ccomp	_	_
5	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	6	nmod:poss	_	_
6	kindness	kindness	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	10	cc	_	_
9	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
10	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	conj	_	_
11	both	both	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	10	obj	_	_
12	of	of	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
13	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	11	nmod	_	_
14	happier	happy	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	10	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **show** | present | Thanks |  |  |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1-1 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **notice** | past | you | their kindness |  |  |  |  | vn see-30.1-1 «NP V S»: agent=Experiencer kindness=Stimulus |
| 3 | **make** | present | Thanks | both |  |  |  | happy *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.material V NP»: agent=Material both=Product |

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