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title: "school dinners r gross cos they're gross" — what's wrong with this? — How to argue: reasons and evidence · tree and pragmatics
description: "school dinners r gross cos they're gross" — what's wrong with this? Test 2 · ★★ of lesson 39 «How to argue: reasons and evidence» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was right.
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# Test 2 · ★★ · How to argue: reasons and evidence

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"school dinners r gross cos they're gross" — what's wrong with this?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 1 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** school dinners, dinners, gross · **What happens:** be

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This is test 2 · ★★ of lesson 39 «How to argue: reasons and evidence» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence/#t2).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence:t2:1
# text = "school dinners r gross cos they're gross" — what's wrong with this?
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	5	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	school	school	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	compound	_	_
3	dinners	dinner	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
4	r	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|Typo=Yes|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	gross	gross	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	nsubj	_	_
6	cos	cos	SCONJ	IN	_	9	mark	_	_
7	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
9	gross	gross	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	5	punct	_	_
11	—	-	PUNCT	:	_	14	punct	_	_
12	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	14	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	cop	_	_
14	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
15	with	with	ADP	IN	_	16	case	_	_
16	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	14	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	14	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** *in a quote* | present | school dinners |  |  |  |  | gross *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** *in a quote* | present | dinners *= dinner* |  |  |  |  | gross *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present | gross |  |  |  |  | with this; wrong *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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The reason just repeats the claim, so it gives no real reason

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence:t2:o1:1
# text = The reason just repeats the claim, so it gives no real reason
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	reason	reason	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	just	just	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
4	repeats	repeat	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	claim	claim	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	so	so	ADV	RB	_	10	advmod	_	_
9	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	nsubj	_	_
10	gives	give	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	conj	_	_
11	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	13	det	_	_
12	real	real	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	13	amod	_	_
13	reason	reason	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **repeat** | present | the reason | the claim |  |  |  |  | vn begin-55.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent claim=Eventuality |
| 2 | **give** | present | reason | no real reason |  |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent reason=Theme |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Nothing, it is a strong argument because the person is being very honest

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence:t2:o2:1
# text = Nothing, it is a strong argument because the person is being very honest
1	Nothing	nothing	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	7	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
5	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	strong	strong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
7	argument	argument	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
8	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	14	mark	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	nsubj	_	_
11	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	cop	_	_
12	being	be	AUX	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	14	cop	_	_
13	very	very	ADV	RB	_	14	advmod	_	_
14	honest	honest	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	advcl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | Nothing | a strong argument |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | present | the person |  |  |  |  | honest *property* | tree rules |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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It uses slang, and slang always makes an argument wrong

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence:t2:o3:1
# text = It uses slang, and slang always makes an argument wrong
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	uses	use	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	slang	slang	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
5	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	8	cc	_	_
6	slang	slang	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	nsubj	_	_
7	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	8	advmod	_	_
8	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	conj	_	_
9	an	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	argument	argument	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	obj	_	_
11	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **use** | present | It | slang |  |  |  |  | vn eat-39.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent slang=Patient |
| 2 | **make** | present | slang | a argument |  |  |  | always, wrong *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset argument=Product |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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It is too short, so it only needs more words to be strong

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:39-how-to-argue-reasons-and-evidence:t2:o4:1
# text = It is too short, so it only needs more words to be strong
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
3	too	too	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
4	short	short	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
6	so	so	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
7	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	_
8	only	only	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	needs	need	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	parataxis	_	_
10	more	more	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	11	amod	_	_
11	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	9	obj	_	_
12	to	to	PART	TO	_	14	mark	_	_
13	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	14	cop	_	_
14	strong	strong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	advcl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | It |  |  |  |  | short *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **need** | present | it | more words |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADV»: agent=Pivot word=Theme |
| 3 | **is** | to-infinitive |  |  |  |  |  | strong *property* | tree rules |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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