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title: The other team's speaker says something good but misses a point. Whi… — Mock ethics olympiad · tree and pragmatics
description: The other team's speaker says something good but misses a point. Which response wins most credit? Test 3 · ★★★ of lesson 50 «Mock ethics olympiad» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wro
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# Test 3 · ★★★ · Mock ethics olympiad

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The other team's speaker says something good but misses a point. Which response wins most credit?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 4 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** speaker, response · **What happens:** say, miss, win · **To what, where:** something, point, most credit · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 3 · ★★★ of lesson 50 «Mock ethics olympiad» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/50-mock-ethics-olympiad/#t3).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* The other team's speaker says something good but misses a point.

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:1
# text = The other team's speaker says something good but misses a point.
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
2	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	team	team	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	's	's	PART	POS	_	3	case	_	_
5	speaker	speaker	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
6	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
7	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	6	obj	_	_
8	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
9	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	10	cc	_	_
10	misses	miss	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
11	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
12	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | the other team's speaker | something |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent something=Topic |
| 2 | **miss** | present | the other team's speaker *not said here* | a point |  |  |  |  | vn admire-31.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer point=Stimulus |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Which response wins most credit?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:2
# text = Which response wins most credit?
1	Which	which	DET	WDT	PronType=Int	2	det	_	_
2	response	response	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	wins	win	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	most	most	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	5	amod	_	_
5	credit	credit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **win** | present | which response | most credit |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent credit=Eventuality |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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"Our team obviously thought of all this first, long before you did"

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:o1:1
# text = "Our team obviously thought of all this first, long before you did"
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	5	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	Our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	3	nmod:poss	_	_
3	team	team	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
4	obviously	obviously	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	thought	think	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	of	of	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
7	all	all	DET	PDT	PronType=Tot	8	det:predet	_	_
8	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	5	obl	_	_
9	first	first	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Ord	5	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
11	long	long	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	5	advmod	_	_
12	before	before	SCONJ	IN	_	14	mark	_	_
13	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	14	nsubj	_	_
14	did	do	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	11	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **think** *speech: other* *in a quote* | past | Our team |  |  |  |  | of this; first, long, obviously *property* | vn focus-87.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **do** *in a quote* | past | you |  |  |  |  |  | vn act-114-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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"We have nothing to say about your view"

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:o2:1
# text = "We have nothing to say about your view"
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	We	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	have	have	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	nothing	nothing	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	3	obj	_	_
5	to	to	PART	TO	_	6	mark	_	_
6	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	acl	_	_
7	about	about	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
8	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	9	nmod:poss	_	_
9	view	view	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** *in a quote* | present | We | nothing |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent nothing=Patient |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | to-infinitive | We *not said here* | nothing *not said here* |  |  |  | about your view | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **view** *in a quote* |  | your |  |  |  |  |  | nom view «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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"That was totally wrong and a bit silly"

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:o3:1
# text = "That was totally wrong and a bit silly"
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	5	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	That	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	5	nsubj	_	_
3	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
4	totally	totally	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
6	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	9	cc	_	_
7	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	bit	bit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obl:unmarked	_	_
9	silly	silly	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** *in a quote* | past | That |  |  |  |  | totally, wrong *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **be** *in a quote* |  | That *not said here* | a bit |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 4 · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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"We liked your point about fairness; we'd add the friend's safety"

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:50-mock-ethics-olympiad:t3:o4:1
# text = "We liked your point about fairness; we'd add the friend's safety"
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	We	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	liked	like	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	5	nmod:poss	_	_
5	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	_
6	about	about	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	fairness	fairness	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	11	punct	_	_
9	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	'd	would	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	_
11	add	add	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	parataxis	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
13	friend	friend	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	's	's	PART	POS	_	13	case	_	_
15	safety	safety	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	11	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **like** *in a quote* | past | We | your point |  |  |  | about fairness | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADV»: agent=Pivot point=Theme |
| 2 | **add** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | would | we | the friend's safety |  |  |  |  | vn mix-22.1-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent safety=Patient |
| 3 | **point** *in a quote* |  | your |  |  |  |  | about fairness | nom point «cognition transitive»: poss=agent about=obl |

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