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title: An ethics olympiad judge asks: «Ben meant to help with "at least". D… — When a friend's mum or dad dies: what… · tree and pragmatics
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# Test 10 · ★★★ · When a friend's mum or dad dies: what to say and do

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An ethics olympiad judge asks: «Ben meant to help with "at least". Does a good intention make the words good?» What is the best-reasoned answer?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 4 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** olympiad judge, Ben, good intention, reasoned answer · **What happens:** ask, mean, help, make, be, reason · **To what, where:** words · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 10 · ★★★ of lesson 61 «When a friend's mum or dad dies: what to say and do» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do/#t10).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* An ethics olympiad judge asks: «Ben meant to help with "at least".

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:1
# text = An ethics olympiad judge asks: «Ben meant to help with "at least".
1	An	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
2	ethics	ethics	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	compound	_	_
3	olympiad	olympiad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	compound	_	_
4	judge	judge	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
5	asks	ask	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	9	punct	_	_
7	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	9	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
9	meant	mean	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	5	ccomp	_	_
10	to	to	PART	TO	_	11	mark	_	_
11	help	help	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	9	xcomp	_	_
12	with	with	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
13	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	15	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	at	at	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
15	least	least	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	11	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	9	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **ask** *speech: ask* | present | a olympiad judge |  |  |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **mean** *in a quote* | past | Ben |  |  |  |  |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **help** *not said to happen, in a quote* | to-infinitive | Ben *not said here* |  |  |  |  | with least | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Agent with least=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Does a good intention make the words good?»

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:2
# text = Does a good intention make the words good?»
1	Does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	aux	_	_
2	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
3	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	amod	_	_
4	intention	intention	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
5	make	make	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	obj	_	_
8	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	xcomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **make** | present · do-support | a good intention | the words |  |  |  | good *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset word=Product |

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*Sentence 3:* What is the best-reasoned answer?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:3
# text = What is the best-reasoned answer?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
4	best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	6	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	reasoned	reason	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	7	amod	_	_
7	answer	answer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | the reasoned answer |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **reason** | participle |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn deduce-97.2 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice {#o1}

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Yes, a good intention makes any words perfect

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:o1:1
# text = Yes, a good intention makes any words perfect
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	6	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	amod	_	_
5	intention	intention	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
6	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
7	any	any	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	8	det	_	_
8	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	obj	_	_
9	perfect	perfect	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **make** | present | a good intention | any words |  |  |  | perfect *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset word=Product |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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It doesn't matter, because words never hurt anyone

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:o2:1
# text = It doesn't matter, because words never hurt anyone
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	_
2	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	4	advmod	_	_
4	matter	matter	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
6	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	9	mark	_	_
7	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	9	nsubj	_	_
8	never	never	ADV	RB	PronType=Neg	9	advmod	_	_
9	hurt	hurt	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	4	parataxis	_	_
10	anyone	anyone	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	9	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **matter** | present · do-support | It |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |
| 2 | **not** **hurt** | past | words | anyone |  |  |  |  | vn hurt-40.8.3-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer anyone=Patient |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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No, Ben is a bad person for saying it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:o3:1
# text = No, Ben is a bad person for saying it
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	7	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	7	nsubj	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
5	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	bad	bad	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
7	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
8	for	for	SCONJ	IN	_	9	mark	_	_
9	saying	say	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	7	acl	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | Ben | a bad person |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund | a bad person *not said here* | person |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

### Option 4 · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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Ben's intention was good, but words can still hurt; next time «I'm sorry» and listening is better

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```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:61-when-a-friends-mum-or-dad-dies-what-to-say-and-do:t10:o4:1
# text = Ben's intention was good, but words can still hurt; next time «I'm sorry» and listening is better
1	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	3	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	's	PART	POS	_	1	case	_	_
3	intention	intention	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
4	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
7	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	11	cc	_	_
8	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	11	nsubj	_	_
9	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	_
10	still	still	ADV	RB	_	11	advmod	_	_
11	hurt	hurt	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	18	punct	_	_
13	next	next	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	18	obl:unmarked	_	_
15	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	18	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	18	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	'm	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	18	cop	_	_
18	sorry	sorry	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	18	punct	_	_
20	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	23	cc	_	_
21	listening	listen	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	23	nsubj	_	_
22	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	23	cop	_	_
23	better	good	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	5	conj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | past | Ben's intention |  |  |  |  | good *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **hurt** | can | words |  |  |  | still |  | vn amuse-31.1 «NP V ADV-Middle»: agent=Experiencer |
| 3 | **is** *in a quote* | present | I |  |  |  | time | sorry *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **listen** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn peer-30.3 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Agent |
| 5 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | good *property* | tree rules |
| 6 | **intend** |  | Ben |  |  |  |  |  | nom intention «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

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