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title: «She can't even talk, what's the point me goin',» says Ellie's cousi… — Kindness to the dying and visiting the… · tree and pragmatics
description: «She can't even talk, what's the point me goin',» says Ellie's cousin in Manchester. What's the best answer? Test 1 of lesson 77 «Kindness to the dying and visiting the old» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each op
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# Test 1 · Kindness to the dying and visiting the old

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«She can't even talk, what's the point me goin',» says Ellie's cousin in Manchester. What's the best answer?

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**Mova's choice:** option 1 · **The right answer:** option 1 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** She, point me goin, cousin, best answer · **What happens:** not talk, be, say · **To what, where:** point me goin, point · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 1 of lesson 77 «Kindness to the dying and visiting the old» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old/#t1).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* «She can't even talk, what's the point me goin',» says Ellie's cousin in Manchester.

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:1
# text = «She can't even talk, what's the point me goin',» says Ellie's cousin in Manchester.
1	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	She	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
3	ca	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	6	advmod	_	_
5	even	even	ADV	RB	_	6	advmod	_	_
6	talk	talk	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	16	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
8	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	11	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	cop	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	compound	_	_
12	me	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	13	compound	_	_
13	goin	goin	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	',	',	PUNCT	''	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	16	punct	_	_
16	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
17	Ellie	Ellie	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	19	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	's	's	PART	POS	_	17	case	_	_
19	cousin	cousin	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	16	obj	_	_
20	in	in	ADP	IN	_	21	case	_	_
21	Manchester	Manchester	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	19	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	16	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **talk** *in a quote* | can | She | point me goin |  |  |  |  | vn compel-59.1 «NP V NP S\_ING»: agent=Agent goin=Patient |
| 2 | **is a** *in a quote* | present | point me goin | the point |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Ellie's cousin |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What's the best answer?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:2
# text = What's the best answer?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	5	amod	_	_
5	answer	answer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | the best answer |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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Being there, holding her hand, still means a lot

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:o1:1
# text = Being there, holding her hand, still means a lot
1	Being	be	AUX	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	2	cop	_	_
2	there	there	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	2	punct	_	_
4	holding	hold	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	9	csubj	_	_
5	her	her	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	6	nmod:poss	_	_
6	hand	hand	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	_
8	still	still	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	means	mean	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
10	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	lot	lot	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | there *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **hold** | gerund |  | her hand |  |  |  |  | vn keep-15.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent hand=Theme |
| 3 | **mean** | present |  | a lot |  |  | still |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent lot=Topic |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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She'll be too asleep to notice anyone

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:o2:1
# text = She'll be too asleep to notice anyone
1	She	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	'll	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	5	aux	_	_
3	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	cop	_	_
4	too	too	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	asleep	asleep	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
6	to	to	PART	TO	_	7	mark	_	_
7	notice	notice	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	xcomp	_	_
8	anyone	anyone	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	7	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | future | She |  |  |  |  | asleep *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **notice** | to-infinitive | She *not said here* | anyone |  |  |  |  | vn see-30.1-1 «NP V S»: agent=Experiencer anyone=Stimulus |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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There's no point at all if she can't talk back to you

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:o3:1
# text = There's no point at all if she can't talk back to you
1	There	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	2	expl	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	4	det	_	_
4	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
5	at	at	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
6	all	all	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	4	nmod	_	_
7	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	11	mark	_	_
8	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	_
9	ca	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	11	advmod	_	_
11	talk	talk	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	advcl	_	_
12	back	back	ADV	RB	_	11	advmod	_	_
13	to	to	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
14	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	11	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | present | no point at all |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **not** **talk back** *a condition, not said to happen* | can | point |  | you |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V PP.co-agent»: agent=Agent to you=Co-Agent |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Only grown-ups' visits count

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:77-kindness-to-the-dying-and-visiting-the-old:t1:o4:1
# text = Only grown-ups' visits count
1	Only	only	ADV	RB	_	2	advmod	_	_
2	grown	grow	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	4	amod	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	2	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	ups	up	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	6	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	'	's	PART	POS	_	4	case	_	_
6	visits	visit	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	nsubj	_	_
7	count	count	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **grow** | participle |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **count** | present | grown ups's visits |  |  |  |  |  | vn matter-91 «NP V»: agent=Stimulus |
| 3 | **visit** |  | grown ups |  |  |  |  |  | nom visit «act transitive»: poss=agent |

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