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# Test 9 · ★ · Honest with yourself: excuses, pride and the truth inside

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The judge asks, "Why did you say the other team had a good point?" Which is the best answer?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 4 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** judge, you, other team · **What happens:** ask, say, have, be · **To what, where:** good point, best answer · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 9 · ★ of lesson 98 «Honest with yourself: excuses, pride and the truth inside» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside/#t9).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* The judge asks, "Why did you say the other team had a good point?"

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:1
# text = The judge asks, "Why did you say the other team had a good point?"
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	judge	judge	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	asks	ask	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
5	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	9	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	Why	why	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	9	advmod	_	_
7	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	9	aux	_	_
8	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	_
9	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	ccomp	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
11	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	12	amod	_	_
12	team	team	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	nsubj	_	_
13	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	9	ccomp	_	_
14	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
15	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	16	amod	_	_
16	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **ask** *speech: ask* | present | the judge |  |  |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past · do-support | you |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **have** *in a quote* | past | the other team | a good point |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent point=Patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Which is the best answer?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:2
# text = Which is the best answer?
1	Which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	5	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
4	best	good	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	5	amod	_	_
5	answer	answer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present |  | the best answer |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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I was trying to make them lose

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:o1:1
# text = I was trying to make them lose
1	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
2	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	aux	_	_
3	trying	try	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
4	to	to	PART	TO	_	5	mark	_	_
5	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	xcomp	_	_
6	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	obj	_	_
7	lose	lose	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	xcomp	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **try** | past · progressive | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn try-61.1 «NP V S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Eventuality |
| 2 | **make** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | I *not said here* | them *= they* |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **lose** *not said to happen* | infinitive | them *= they* *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn succeed-74-3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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I forgot what my point was

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:o2:1
# text = I forgot what my point was
1	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	forgot	forget	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	2	ccomp	_	_
4	my	my	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	5	nmod:poss	_	_
5	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
6	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **forget** | past | I |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **is a** | past | my point |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **point** |  | my |  |  |  |  |  | nom point «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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I wanted to finish early

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:o3:1
# text = I wanted to finish early
1	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	wanted	want	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	to	to	PART	TO	_	4	mark	_	_
4	finish	finish	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	xcomp	_	_
5	early	early	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	4	advmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **want** | past | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Pivot clause=Theme |
| 2 | **finish** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | I *not said here* |  |  |  |  | early *property* | vn stop-55.4-1-1 «NP.eventuality V»: agent=Eventuality |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o4}

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Admitting a good point is honest, and judges give points for it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:98-honest-with-yourself-excuses-pride-and-the-truth-inside:t9:o4:1
# text = Admitting a good point is honest, and judges give points for it
1	Admitting	admit	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	6	csubj	_	_
2	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
3	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	amod	_	_
4	point	point	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	obj	_	_
5	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
6	honest	honest	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	10	cc	_	_
9	judges	judge	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	10	nsubj	_	_
10	give	give	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
11	points	point	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	10	obj	_	_
12	for	for	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
13	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **admit** *speech: other* | gerund |  | a good point |  |  |  |  | vn admit-64.3-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent point=Theme |
| 2 | **is** | present | Admitting |  |  |  |  | honest *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **give** | present | judges | points |  |  |  | for point | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP PP.asset»: agent=Agent point=Theme for it=Asset |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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