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title: Brody says, "Everyone's in on it, so it's not a lie if we all say it… — Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and… · tree and pragmatics
description: Brody says, "Everyone's in on it, so it's not a lie if we all say it." What is wrong? Test 6 · ★★ of lesson 99 «Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's ch
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# Test 6 · ★★ · Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling

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Brody says, "Everyone's in on it, so it's not a lie if we all say it." What is wrong?

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**Mova's choice:** option 3 · **The right answer:** option 2 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Brody, Everyone, it, we · **What happens:** say, be, not be · **To what, where:** it, lie · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 6 · ★★ of lesson 99 «Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/religion-ethics/99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling/#t6).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Brody says, "Everyone's in on it, so it's not a lie if we all say it."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:1
# text = Brody says, "Everyone's in on it, so it's not a lie if we all say it."
1	Brody	Brody	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	9	punct	_	_
4	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	9	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	Everyone	everyone	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Tot	9	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
7	in	in	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
8	on	on	ADP	IN	_	9	case	_	_
9	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	ccomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	16	punct	_	_
11	so	so	ADV	RB	_	16	advmod	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	16	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	cop	_	_
14	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	16	advmod	_	_
15	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	lie	lie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	ccomp	_	_
17	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	20	mark	_	_
18	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	20	nsubj	_	_
19	all	all	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	20	advmod	_	_
20	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	advcl	_	_
21	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	20	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	16	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
23	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	16	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Brody |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **is** *in a quote* | present | Everyone |  |  | it |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **not** **is a** *in a quote* | present | it | a lie |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* *a condition, not said to happen, in a quote* | present | we | lie |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What is wrong?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:2
# text = What is wrong?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	3	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | wrong *property* | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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The head always knows the truth anyway, so it's fine

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:o1:1
# text = The head always knows the truth anyway, so it's fine
1	The	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	head	head	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	4	advmod	_	_
4	knows	know	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	truth	truth	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
7	anyway	anyway	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
9	so	so	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	12	expl	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	12	cop	_	_
12	fine	fine	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	conj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **know** | present | the head | the truth |  |  |  | always, anyway *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V NP PP.attribute»: agent=Experiencer truth=Stimulus |
| 2 | **is** | present | the head *not said here* |  |  |  |  | fine *property* | tree rules |

### Option 2 · ✓ the right answer {#o2}

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A lie stays a lie even if a crowd says it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:o2:1
# text = A lie stays a lie even if a crowd says it
1	A	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	lie	lie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	stays	stay	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
5	lie	lie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	obj	_	_
6	even	even	ADV	RB	_	10	advmod	_	_
7	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	10	mark	_	_
8	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	crowd	crowd	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
10	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	advcl	_	_
11	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	10	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **stay** | present | a lie | a lie |  |  |  |  | vn lodge-46 «NP V ADV»: agent=Theme lie=Location |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *a condition, not said to happen* | present | a crowd | lie |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

### Option 3 · ← Mova's choice {#o3}

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It's only a lie if one person says it on their own

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:o3:1
# text = It's only a lie if one person says it on their own
1	It	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
3	only	only	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
4	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
5	lie	lie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
6	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	9	mark	_	_
7	one	one	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	8	nummod	_	_
8	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
9	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	advcl	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	obj	_	_
11	on	on	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
12	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	13	nmod:poss	_	_
13	own	own	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | It | a lie |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *a condition, not said to happen* | present | one person | lie |  | their own |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent it=Topic |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Nothing; group lies don't count as real lies

```conllu
# sent_id = question:religion-ethics:99-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling:t6:o4:1
# text = Nothing; group lies don't count as real lies
1	Nothing	nothing	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	7	punct	_	_
3	group	group	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	compound	_	_
4	lies	lie	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	nsubj	_	_
5	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	7	advmod	_	_
7	count	count	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	1	parataxis	_	_
8	as	as	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	real	real	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	lies	lie	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **count** | present · do-support | group lies |  |  |  |  | as real lies | vn masquerade-29.6 «NP V PP.attribute»: agent=Agent as lie=Attribute |

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