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title: Kid: "Rude to a waiter ten years ago, so his school plan's codswallo… — The politician's either-or and the str… · tree and pragmatics
description: Kid: "Rude to a waiter ten years ago, so his school plan's codswallop? Shouldn't we, like, read the plan?" What is the kid asking for? Test 11 · ★ of lesson 178 «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the
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# Test 11 · ★ · The politician's either-or and the straw man

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Kid: "Rude to a waiter ten years ago, so his school plan's codswallop? Shouldn't we, like, read the plan?" What is the kid asking for?

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**Mova's choice:** option 3 · **The right answer:** option 3 · right ✓ · **Who acts:** his, we, kid · **What happens:** plan, not read, be, ask · **To what, where:** plan

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This is test 11 · ★ of lesson 178 «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/world/178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man/#t11).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Kid: "Rude to a waiter ten years ago, so his school plan's codswallop?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:1
# text = Kid: "Rude to a waiter ten years ago, so his school plan's codswallop?
1	Kid	kid	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	4	punct	_	_
3	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	Rude	rude	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	1	conj	_	_
5	to	to	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
6	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	waiter	waiter	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
8	ten	ten	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	9	nummod	_	_
9	years	year	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	10	obl:unmarked	_	_
10	ago	ago	ADV	RB	_	7	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
12	so	so	ADV	RB	_	17	advmod	_	_
13	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	15	nmod:poss	_	_
14	school	school	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	compound	_	_
15	plan	plan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	17	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	's	's	PART	POS	_	15	case	_	_
17	codswallop	codswallop	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **plan** *in a quote* |  | his *= he* |  |  |  |  |  | nom plan «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* Shouldn't we, like, read the plan?"

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:2
# text = Shouldn't we, like, read the plan?"
1	Should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	7	advmod	_	_
3	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
5	like	like	INTJ	UH	_	7	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	5	punct	_	_
7	read	read	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
8	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	plan	plan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	7	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	7	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **read** | should | we | the plan |  |  |  |  | vn transfer\_mesg-37.1.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent plan=Topic |

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*Sentence 3:* What is the kid asking for?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:3
# text = What is the kid asking for?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	1	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	kid	kid	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	nsubj	_	_
5	asking	ask	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	4	acl	_	_
6	for	for	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | the kid |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **ask** *speech: ask* | gerund | the kid *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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Ignoring every plan about schools

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:o1:1
# text = Ignoring every plan about schools
1	Ignoring	ignore	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
2	every	every	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	3	det	_	_
3	plan	plan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	obj	_	_
4	about	about	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	schools	school	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **ignore** | gerund |  | every plan |  |  |  | about schools | vn neglect-75.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent plan=Theme |

### Option 2 {#o2}

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Asking the waiter about schools

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:o2:1
# text = Asking the waiter about schools
1	Asking	ask	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	waiter	waiter	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	obj	_	_
4	about	about	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	schools	school	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	1	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **ask** *speech: ask* | gerund |  |  | the waiter |  |  | about schools | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V NP PP.topic»: agent=Agent waiter=Recipient about school=Topic |

### Option 3 · ← Mova's choice · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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Judging the plan by what is in it

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:o3:1
# text = Judging the plan by what is in it
1	Judging	judge	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	5	csubj	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	plan	plan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	1	obj	_	_
4	by	by	ADP	IN	_	5	case	_	_
5	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	0	root	_	_
6	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
7	in	in	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
8	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nmod	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **judge** | gerund |  | the plan |  |  |  |  | vn estimate-34.2-1-1 «NP V NP.value»: agent=Agent plan=Value |
| 2 | **is** | present | Judging |  |  | plan |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Voting for whoever is politest

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man:t11:o4:1
# text = Voting for whoever is politest
1	Voting	vote	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	5	csubj	_	_
2	for	for	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
3	whoever	whoever	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	1	obl	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	politest	polite	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **vote** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | for whoever *goal* | vn future\_having-13.3 «NP V NP PP.goal»: agent=Agent for whoever=Goal |
| 2 | **is** | present | Voting |  |  |  |  | polite *property* | tree rules |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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