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title: Ella: "Where did I say that? You've been arguing with a ghost for fi… — Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving… · tree and pragmatics
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# Test 2 · ★★ · Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no eithe…

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Ella: "Where did I say that? You've been arguing with a ghost for five minutes." Which trick has she spotted?

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**Mova's choice:** option 3 · **The right answer:** option 1 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Ella, You, trick · **What happens:** say, argue, have, spot · **To what, where:** that · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 2 · ★★ of lesson 189 «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/#t2).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Ella: "Where did I say that?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:1
# text = Ella: "Where did I say that?
1	Ella	Ella	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	7	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	7	punct	_	_
3	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	7	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	Where	where	ADV	WRB	PronType=Rel	7	advmod	_	_
5	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	_
6	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
7	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
8	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	7	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	7	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past · do-support | Ella | that |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent that=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* You've been arguing with a ghost for five minutes."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:2
# text = You've been arguing with a ghost for five minutes."
1	You	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	've	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	_
3	been	be	AUX	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	4	aux	_	_
4	arguing	argue	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
5	with	with	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
6	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	ghost	ghost	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
8	for	for	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	five	five	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	10	nummod	_	_
10	minutes	minute	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	4	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
11	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	4	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **argue** *speech: disagree* | present · perfect · progressive | You |  |  |  | minute | with a ghost | vn chit\_chat-37.6-1 «NP V PP.co-agent»: agent=Agent with ghost=Co-Agent |

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*Sentence 3:* Which trick has she spotted?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:3
# text = Which trick has she spotted?
1	Which	which	DET	WDT	PronType=Int	2	det	_	_
2	trick	trick	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	has	have	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	5	nsubj	_	_
5	spotted	spot	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	3	xcomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | present | which trick |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **spot** | participle | trick |  |  |  |  |  | vn weather-57 «It V PP.theme» |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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A straw man

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:o1:1
# text = A straw man
1	A	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
2	straw	straw	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	compound	_	_
3	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
```

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The frames reader finds no event or fact in this sentence.

### Option 2 {#o2}

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A red herring

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:o2:1
# text = A red herring
1	A	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
2	red	red	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	herring	herring	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
```

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The frames reader finds no event or fact in this sentence.

### Option 3 · ← Mova's choice {#o3}

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Moving the goalposts

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:o3:1
# text = Moving the goalposts
1	Moving	move	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	0	root	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	goalposts	goalpost	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	1	obj	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **move** | gerund |  | the goalposts |  |  |  |  | vn roll-51.3.1 «NP V NP.theme»: agent=Agent goalpost=Theme |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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An either-or

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t2:o4:1
# text = An either-or
1	An	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	2	det	_	_
2	either	either	CCONJ	CC	_	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	2	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	2	cc	_	_
```

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The frames reader finds no event or fact in this sentence.

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