--- title: What would happen if Kai had said at the start, "A test that others… — Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving… · tree and pragmatics description: What would happen if Kai had said at the start, "A test that others can repeat in real life would convince me"? Test 3 · ★★ of lesson 189 «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the ques --- [Mova](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/) · [this page in HTML](https://mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/questions/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/t3/) [home](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/) / [corpora](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/) / [questions](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/questions/) / [World](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/questions/world/) / [Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving…](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/questions/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/) / t3 # Test 3 · ★★ · Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no eithe… What would happen if Kai had said at the start, "A test that others can repeat in real life would convince me"? **Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 1 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Kai, others, test · **What happens:** happen, say, repeat, convince · **To what, where:** start, test, real life, Kai · **Speech:** someone speaks here This is test 3 · ★★ of lesson 189 «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/#t3). ## The question {#question} ```conllu # sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t3:1 # text = What would happen if Kai had said at the start, "A test that others can repeat in real life would convince me"? 1 What what PRON WP PronType=Int 3 nsubj _ _ 2 would would AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 3 aux _ _ 3 happen happen VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 0 root _ _ 4 if if SCONJ IN _ 7 mark _ _ 5 Kai Kai PROPN NNP Number=Sing 7 nsubj _ _ 6 had have AUX VBD Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin 7 aux _ _ 7 said say VERB VBN Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part 3 advcl _ _ 8 at at ADP IN _ 10 case _ _ 9 the the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 10 det _ _ 10 start start NOUN NN Number=Sing 7 obl _ SpaceAfter=No 11 , , PUNCT , _ 14 punct _ _ 12 " " PUNCT `` _ 14 punct _ SpaceAfter=No 13 A a DET DT Definite=Ind|PronType=Art 14 det _ _ 14 test test NOUN NN Number=Sing 23 nsubj _ _ 15 that that PRON WDT PronType=Rel 18 obj _ _ 16 others other NOUN NNS Number=Plur 18 nsubj _ _ 17 can can AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 18 aux _ _ 18 repeat repeat VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 14 acl:relcl _ _ 19 in in ADP IN _ 21 case _ _ 20 real real ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 21 amod _ _ 21 life life NOUN NN Number=Sing 18 obl _ _ 22 would would AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 23 aux _ _ 23 convince convince VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 3 conj _ _ 24 me I PRON PRP Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs 23 iobj _ SpaceAfter=No 25 " " PUNCT '' _ 23 punct _ SpaceAfter=No 26 ? ? PUNCT . _ 3 punct _ _ ``` | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **happen** | would | | | | | | | vn occur-48.3-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme | | 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *a condition, not said to happen* | past · perfect | Kai | | | the start | | | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent | | 3 | **repeat** *in a quote* | can | others | a test | | real life | | | vn begin-55.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent that=Eventuality | | 4 | **convince** *in a quote* | would | a test | | Kai | | | | vn amuse-31.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Stimulus i=Experiencer | One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree. ## The options {#options} ### Option 1 · ✓ the right answer {#o1} Everyone would know what counts as proof ```conllu # sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t3:o1:1 # text = Everyone would know what counts as proof 1 Everyone everyone PRON NN Number=Sing|PronType=Tot 3 nsubj _ _ 2 would would AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 3 aux _ _ 3 know know VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 0 root _ _ 4 what what PRON WP PronType=Int 5 nsubj _ _ 5 counts count VERB VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 3 ccomp _ _ 6 as as ADP IN _ 7 case _ _ 7 proof proof NOUN NN Number=Sing 5 obl _ _ ``` | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **know** | would | Everyone | | | | | | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V how S\_INF»: agent=Experiencer clause=Stimulus | | 2 | **count** | present | | | | | | as proof | vn masquerade-29.6 «NP V PP.attribute»: agent=Agent as proof=Attribute | ### Option 2 {#o2} The argument could never end ```conllu # sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t3:o2:1 # text = The argument could never end 1 The the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 2 det _ _ 2 argument argument NOUN NN Number=Sing 5 nsubj _ _ 3 could could AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 5 aux _ _ 4 never never ADV RB PronType=Neg 5 advmod _ _ 5 end end VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 0 root _ _ ``` | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **not** **end** | could | the argument | | | | | | vn stop-55.4-1-1 «NP.eventuality V»: agent=Eventuality | ### Option 3 {#o3} He would have to believe the blurry photo ```conllu # sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t3:o3:1 # text = He would have to believe the blurry photo 1 He he PRON PRP Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs 3 nsubj _ _ 2 would would AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 3 aux _ _ 3 have have VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 0 root _ _ 4 to to PART TO _ 5 mark _ _ 5 believe believe VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 3 xcomp _ _ 6 the the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 8 det _ _ 7 blurry blurry ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 8 amod _ _ 8 photo photo NOUN NN Number=Sing 5 obj _ _ ``` | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **have** | would | He | | | | | | tree rules | | 2 | **believe** | to-infinitive | He *not said here* | the blurry photo | | | | | vn admire-31.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer photo=Stimulus | ### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice {#o4} Ghosts would appear when asked ```conllu # sent_id = question:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or:t3:o4:1 # text = Ghosts would appear when asked 1 Ghosts ghost NOUN NNS Number=Plur 3 nsubj _ _ 2 would would AUX MD VerbForm=Fin 3 aux _ _ 3 appear appear VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 0 root _ _ 4 when when ADV WRB PronType=Int 5 advmod _ _ 5 asked ask VERB VBN Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part 3 advcl _ _ ``` | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **appear** | would | Ghosts | | | | | | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme | | 2 | **ask** *speech: ask* | participle | Ghosts *not said here* | | | | | | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V»: agent=Agent | **Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. 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