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title: Jamie from Newcastle: "Howay, Ann's taller than Ben and Cal's taller… — Olympiad: logic traps and if-then ★★★ · tree and pragmatics
description: Jamie from Newcastle: "Howay, Ann's taller than Ben and Cal's taller than Ben, so Ann's the tallest, the gadgie said." What is true? Test 4 · ★★★ of lesson 193 «Olympiad: logic traps and if-then ★★★» of the world course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the questio
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# Test 4 · ★★★ · Olympiad: logic traps and if-then ★★★

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Jamie from Newcastle: "Howay, Ann's taller than Ben and Cal's taller than Ben, so Ann's the tallest, the gadgie said." What is true?

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**Mova's choice:** option 2 · **The right answer:** option 3 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** Ann, gadgie · **What happens:** be, say · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 4 · ★★★ of lesson 193 «Olympiad: logic traps and if-then ★★★» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/world/193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then/#t4).

## The question {#question}

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*Sentence 1:* Jamie from Newcastle: "Howay, Ann's taller than Ben and Cal's taller than Ben, so Ann's the tallest, the gadgie said."

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:1
# text = Jamie from Newcastle: "Howay, Ann's taller than Ben and Cal's taller than Ben, so Ann's the tallest, the gadgie said."
1	Jamie	Jamie	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
2	from	from	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
3	Newcastle	Newcastle	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	1	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	6	punct	_	_
5	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	6	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	Howay	Howay	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	Ann	Ann	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	's	's	PART	POS	_	8	case	_	_
10	taller	tall	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	0	root	_	_
11	than	than	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
12	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	obl	_	_
13	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	16	cc	_	_
14	Cal	Cal	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	16	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	's	's	PART	POS	_	14	case	_	_
16	taller	tall	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	10	conj	_	_
17	than	than	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	16	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	24	punct	_	_
20	so	so	ADV	RB	_	24	advmod	_	_
21	Ann	Ann	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	24	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	24	cop	_	_
23	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	24	det	_	_
24	tallest	tall	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	10	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	28	punct	_	_
26	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	27	det	_	_
27	gadgie	gadgie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	28	nsubj	_	_
28	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
29	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	10	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
30	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	10	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** *in a quote* | present | Ann |  |  |  |  | tall *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past | the gadgie |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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*Sentence 2:* What is true?

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:2
# text = What is true?
1	What	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	3	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	cop	_	_
3	true	true	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | true *property* | tree rules |

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 {#o1}

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Ann and Cal are the same height

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:o1:1
# text = Ann and Cal are the same height
1	Ann	Ann	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	7	nsubj	_	_
2	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	3	cc	_	_
3	Cal	Cal	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	1	conj	_	_
4	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	7	amod	_	_
7	height	height	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | Ann and Cal | the same height |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

### Option 2 · ← Mova's choice {#o2}

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Cal is the tallest

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:o2:1
# text = Cal is the tallest
1	Cal	Cal	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	tallest	tall	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Cal |  |  |  |  | tall *property* | tree rules |

### Option 3 · ✓ the right answer {#o3}

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Only that Ben is the shortest

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:o3:1
# text = Only that Ben is the shortest
1	Only	only	ADV	RB	_	6	advmod	_	_
2	that	that	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	3	det	_	_
3	Ben	Ben	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	shortest	short	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | that Ben |  |  |  |  | short *property* | tree rules |

### Option 4 {#o4}

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Ann is the tallest

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:193-olympiad-logic-traps-and-if-then:t4:o4:1
# text = Ann is the tallest
1	Ann	Ann	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
2	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	tallest	tall	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Ann |  |  |  |  | tall *property* | tree rules |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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