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title: my brother says road salt melts ice however cold it is. right? — Clever reasoning about water and matter · tree and pragmatics
description: my brother says road salt melts ice however cold it is. right? Test 13 · ★★★ of lesson 20 «Clever reasoning about water and matter» of the world course of Mova's primary school, with the dependency tree and pragmatics of the question and of each option; Mova's choice was wrong.
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# Test 13 · ★★★ · Clever reasoning about water and matter

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my brother says road salt melts ice however cold it is. right?

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**Mova's choice:** option 4 · **The right answer:** option 1 · wrong ✗ · **Who acts:** brother, road salt, ice · **What happens:** say, melt, be · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is test 13 · ★★★ of lesson 20 «Clever reasoning about water and matter» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives the question's syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause, then the 4 options as the student saw them, each with its tree and pragmatics. Every text is parsed by Mova itself. How the student answered it, with the score of every option and why: [the test at school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/school-run/world/20-reasoning-water-and-matter/#t13).

## The question {#question}

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:20-reasoning-water-and-matter:t13:1
# text = my brother says road salt melts ice however cold it is. right?
1	my	my	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	2	nmod:poss	_	_
2	brother	brother	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
3	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	road	road	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	compound	_	_
5	salt	salt	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
6	melts	melt	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	ccomp	_	_
7	ice	ice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
8	however	however	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	cold	col	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	ccomp	_	_
10	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	obj	_	_
11	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
13	right	right	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | my brother |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **melt** | present | road salt |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **is** | present | ice |  |  |  |  | col, however *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

## The options {#options}

### Option 1 · ✓ the right answer {#o1}

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No, in very hard frost even salty water freezes

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:20-reasoning-water-and-matter:t13:o1:1
# text = No, in very hard frost even salty water freezes
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	10	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
3	in	in	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
4	very	very	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	hard	hard	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	6	amod	_	_
6	frost	frost	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
7	even	even	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
8	salty	salty	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	amod	_	_
9	water	water	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nmod	_	_
10	freezes	freeze	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **freeze** | present | hard frost  salty water |  |  |  |  |  | vn other\_cos-45.4-1 «NP.patient V»: agent=Patient |

### Option 2 {#o2}

<!-- .ven lang=en -->
No, salt only works on snow, not ice

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:20-reasoning-water-and-matter:t13:o2:1
# text = No, salt only works on snow, not ice
1	No	no	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Neg	3	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	salt	salt	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
4	only	only	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	_
5	works	work	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	on	on	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	snow	snow	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
9	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	10	advmod	_	_
10	ice	ice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **work** | present | salt | ice |  |  |  | on snow | vn employment-95.3 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Agent on snow=Theme |

### Option 3 {#o3}

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Yes, the colder it is the better salt works

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:20-reasoning-water-and-matter:t13:o3:1
# text = Yes, the colder it is the better salt works
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	4	det	_	_
4	colder	cold	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	9	amod	_	_
5	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	9	nsubj	_	_
6	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	cop	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
8	better	good	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	9	amod	_	_
9	salt	salt	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
10	works	work	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | it | the colder better salt |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **work** | present | the colder better salt |  |  |  |  |  | vn employment-95.3 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

### Option 4 · ← Mova's choice {#o4}

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Yes, salt melts ice at any temperature

```conllu
# sent_id = question:world:20-reasoning-water-and-matter:t13:o4:1
# text = Yes, salt melts ice at any temperature
1	Yes	yes	INTJ	UH	Polarity=Pos	4	discourse	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	salt	salt	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
4	melts	melt	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
5	ice	ice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obj	_	_
6	at	at	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
7	any	any	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	8	det	_	_
8	temperature	temperature	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	obl	_	_
```

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **melt** | present | salt | ice |  | any temperature |  |  | vn other\_cos-45.4-1 «NP V NP ADJ»: agent=Patient ice=Result |

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**Text:** the tests of Mova's primary school, written for Mova (`world/data/school/`), as the course runner gave them to the student. **Trees:** Mova's own parse — the `en` model on the CPU, when the site is built — not checked by a teacher; they may be wrong. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), each text read on its own. Elamur Cosmic License.

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