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title: Some magpies tried to remove a mark they could only see in a mirror,… — Animal minds: clever crows, ravens, jays and par… · tree and pragmatics
description: Some magpies tried to remove a mark they could only see in a mirror, which suggests they recognise themselves, though the mirror test is argued about. Who acts: magpies, mirror. A sentence of the lesson «Animal minds: clever crows, ravens, jays and parrots» of the biology course of Mova's primary sc
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# Animal minds: clever crows, ravens, jays and parrots, sentence 14

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Some magpies tried to remove a mark they could only see in a mirror, which suggests they recognise themselves, though the mirror test is argued about.

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**Who acts:** magpies, mirror · **What happens:** try, remove, see, suggest, recognise, argue · **To what, where:** mark, mirror, magpies, mirror test · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Animal minds: clever crows, ravens, jays and parrots» of the biology course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (magpies, mirror), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:biology:233-animal-minds-clever-crows-ravens-jays-and-parrots.lesson:14
# text = Some magpies tried to remove a mark they could only see in a mirror, which suggests they recognise themselves, though the mirror test is argued about.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = biology
# lesson = 233-animal-minds-clever-crows-ravens-jays-and-parrots.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	2	det	_	_
2	magpies	magpie	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
3	tried	try	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	to	to	PART	TO	_	5	mark	_	_
5	remove	remove	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	xcomp	_	_
6	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	mark	mark	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obj	_	_
8	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	nsubj	_	_
9	could	could	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	_
10	only	only	ADV	RB	_	11	advmod	_	_
11	see	see	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	acl:relcl	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=5:advcl
12	in	in	ADP	IN	_	14	case	_	_
13	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	14	det	_	_
14	mirror	mirror	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obl	_	_
15	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
16	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	17	nsubj	_	_
17	suggests	suggest	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	acl:relcl	_	_
18	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	19	nsubj	_	_
19	recognise	recognise	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	17	ccomp	_	_
20	themselves	themselves	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes	19	obj	_	_
21	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
22	though	though	SCONJ	IN	_	27	mark	_	_
23	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	25	det	_	_
24	mirror	mirror	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	25	compound	_	_
25	test	test	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	nsubj:pass	_	_
26	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	27	aux:pass	_	_
27	argued	argue	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	3	advcl	_	_
28	about	about	ADP	IN	_	27	obl	_	_
29	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **try** | past | some magpies |  |  |  |  |  | vn try-61.1 «NP V S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Eventuality |
| 2 | **remove** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | some magpies *not said here* | a mark |  |  |  |  | vn fire-10.10 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent mark=Theme |
| 3 | **see** | could | magpies *= magpie* | a mark *not said here* |  | a mirror |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer mark=Stimulus |
| 4 | **suggest** *speech: suggest* | present | a mirror |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **recognise** | present | magpies *= magpie* | magpies *= magpie* |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer themselves=Stimulus |
| 6 | **argue** *speech: disagree* | present · passive |  | the mirror test |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1-1 «NP V S»: subject=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

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