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title: In old stories grown-ups spank children all the time; today we know… — Just So Stories (Rudyard Kipling), 5: The Elepha… · tree and pragmatics
description: In old stories grown-ups spank children all the time; today we know that hitting children is wrong, and Kipling makes it silly on purpose. Who acts: grown ups, we, hitting, Kipling. A sentence of the lesson «Just So Stories (Rudyard Kipling), 5: The Elephant's Child, part 1 (What does the Crocodile 
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# Just So Stories (Rudyard Kipling), 5: The Elephant's Child, part 1 (What does the Crocodile have for dinner?), sentence 8

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In old stories grown-ups spank children all the time; today we know that hitting children is wrong, and Kipling makes it silly on purpose.

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**Who acts:** grown ups, we, hitting, Kipling · **What happens:** grow, spank, know, hit, be, make · **To what, where:** children, old stories, skin, purpose · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Just So Stories (Rudyard Kipling), 5: The Elephant's Child, part 1 (What does the Crocodile have for dinner?)» of the books course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (grown ups, we, hitting, Kipling), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:books:079-justso-elephants-child-1.lesson:8
# text = In old stories grown-ups spank children all the time; today we know that hitting children is wrong, and Kipling makes it silly on purpose.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = books
# lesson = 079-justso-elephants-child-1.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1
1	In	in	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
2	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	stories	story	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	obl	_	_
4	grown	grow	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	6	amod	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=6:amod|HaikuPos=ADJ:JJ:Degree=Pos
5	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	6	punct	_	_
6	ups	up	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	nsubj	_	_
7	spank	spank	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
8	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	obj	_	_
9	all	all	DET	PDT	PronType=Tot	11	det:predet	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obl:unmarked	_	_
12	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
13	today	today	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	obl	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=15:advmod|HaikuPos=ADV:RB:_
14	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	15	nsubj	_	_
15	know	know	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	parataxis	_	_
16	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	20	mark	_	_
17	hitting	hit	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	20	csubj	_	_
18	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	17	obj	_	_
19	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	20	cop	_	_
20	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	ccomp	_	_
21	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	24	punct	_	_
22	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	24	cc	_	_
23	Kipling	Kipling	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	24	nsubj	_	_
24	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	15	conj	_	_
25	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	24	obj	_	_
26	silly	silly	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	24	xcomp	_	_
27	on	on	ADP	IN	_	28	case	_	_
28	purpose	purpose	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	24	obl	_	_
29	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	7	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **grow** | participle |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **spank** | present | grown ups | children |  | old stories | time |  | vn spank-18.3 «NP V NP PP.location»: agent=Agent child=Patient in story=Location |
| 3 | **know** | present | we |  |  |  | today |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |
| 4 | **hit** | gerund |  | children |  |  |  |  | vn contiguous\_location-47.8-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Theme child=Co-Theme |
| 5 | **is** | present | hitting |  |  |  |  | wrong *property* | tree rules |
| 6 | **make** | present | Kipling | skin |  | purpose |  | silly *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Product |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:books:079-justso-elephants-child-1.lesson:8`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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