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title: Saying «just joking» after something mean does not make it okay; if… — Jokes and teasing: when is it still funny? · tree and pragmatics
description: Saying «just joking» after something mean does not make it okay; if the target is hurt, it was not a joke to them. Who acts: Saying, target. A sentence of the lesson «Jokes and teasing: when is it still funny?» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school with its dependency tree and the pragmati
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# Jokes and teasing: when is it still funny?, sentence 1

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Saying «just joking» after something mean does not make it okay; if the target is hurt, it was not a joke to them.

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**Who acts:** Saying, target · **What happens:** say, joke, not make, hurt, not be · **To what, where:** something, mean, target, joke, them · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Jokes and teasing: when is it still funny?» of the everyday course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Saying, target), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:everyday:203-jokes-and-teasing.lesson:1
# text = Saying «just joking» after something mean does not make it okay; if the target is hurt, it was not a joke to them.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = everyday
# lesson = 203-jokes-and-teasing.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R6-punct-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1
1	Saying	say	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	11	csubj	_	_
2	«	«	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=4:punct|HaikuPos=PUNCT:,:_
3	just	just	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	_
4	joking	joke	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	1	ccomp	_	_
5	»	»	PUNCT	''	_	4	punct	_	Agree=R6-punct-agree|Haiku=11:punct|HaikuPos=PUNCT:,:_
6	after	after	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
7	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	4	obl	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=8:compound
8	mean	mean	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obl	_	_
9	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	_
10	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	11	advmod	_	_
11	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	25	parataxis	_	_
12	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	obj	_	_
13	okay	okay	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	xcomp	_	_
14	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	19	punct	_	_
15	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	19	mark	_	_
16	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	17	det	_	_
17	target	target	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	19	nsubj:pass	_	_
18	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	19	aux:pass	_	_
19	hurt	hurt	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	11	advcl	_	_
20	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
21	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	25	nsubj	_	_
22	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	25	cop	_	_
23	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	25	advmod	_	_
24	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	25	det	_	_
25	joke	joke	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	0	root	_	_
26	to	to	ADP	IN	_	27	case	_	_
27	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	25	nmod	_	_
28	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	25	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **joke** *speech: other* *in a quote* | gerund |  | something |  |  |  |  | vn chit\_chat-37.6 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **not** **make** | present · do-support | Saying | mean |  |  | after mean | okay *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset it=Product |
| 4 | **hurt** *a condition, not said to happen* | present · passive |  | the target |  |  |  |  | vn hurt-40.8.3-2 «NP V NP»: subject=Patient |
| 5 | **not** **is a** | past | target | a joke | them *= they* |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:everyday:203-jokes-and-teasing.lesson:1`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R6-punct-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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