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title: Between about 800 and 200 BCE great thinkers lived in China, India,… — Ideas on the move: numbers, paper, letters, ches… · tree and pragmatics
description: Between about 800 and 200 BCE great thinkers lived in China, India, Persia, Israel and Greece, among them Confucius, the Buddha and Socrates; they did not know each other, and some historians call this the Axial Age while others say the pattern is too neat. Who acts: great thinkers, thinkers, histor
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# Ideas on the move: numbers, paper, letters, chess and news, sentence 10

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Between about 800 and 200 BCE great thinkers lived in China, India, Persia, Israel and Greece, among them Confucius, the Buddha and Socrates; they did not know each other, and some historians call this the Axial Age while others say the pattern is too neat.

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**Who acts:** great thinkers, thinkers, historians, others, pattern · **What happens:** live, not know, call, say, be · **To what, where:** China, each, this · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Ideas on the move: numbers, paper, letters, chess and news» of the history course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (great thinkers, thinkers, historians, others), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:history:075-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news.lesson:10
# text = Between about 800 and 200 BCE great thinkers lived in China, India, Persia, Israel and Greece, among them Confucius, the Buddha and Socrates; they did not know each other, and some historians call this the Axial Age while others say the pattern is too neat.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = history
# lesson = 075-ideas-on-the-move-numbers-paper-letters-chess-and-news.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R3-conj-first ×1, R7-rel-agree ×3
1	Between	between	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
2	about	about	ADV	RB	_	3	advmod	_	_
3	800	800	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	9	obl	_	_
4	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	5	cc	_	_
5	200	200	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	3	conj	_	_
6	BCE	BCE	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	5	compound	_	_
7	great	great	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	amod	_	_
8	thinkers	thinker	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	9	nsubj	_	_
9	lived	live	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
10	in	in	ADP	IN	_	11	case	_	_
11	China	China	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	9	obl	_	_
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
13	India	India	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	11	conj	_	_
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
15	Persia	Persia	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	11	conj	_	_
16	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
17	Israel	Israel	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	11	conj	_	_
18	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	19	cc	_	_
19	Greece	Greece	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	11	conj	_	Agree=R3-conj-first|Haiku=17:conj
20	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	23	punct	_	_
21	among	among	ADP	IN	_	23	case	_	_
22	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	23	nsubj	_	_
23	Confucius	Confucius	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	9	obl	_	_
24	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	26	punct	_	_
25	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	26	det	_	_
26	Buddha	Buddha	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	23	conj	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=23:appos
27	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	28	cc	_	_
28	Socrates	Socrates	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	26	conj	_	_
29	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	33	punct	_	_
30	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	33	nsubj	_	_
31	did	do	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	33	aux	_	_
32	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	33	advmod	_	_
33	know	know	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	9	parataxis	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=9:conj
34	each	each	DET	DT	ExtPos=PRON|PronType=Rcp	33	obj	_	_
35	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	34	fixed	_	_
36	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	40	punct	_	_
37	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	40	cc	_	_
38	some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	39	det	_	_
39	historians	historian	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	40	nsubj	_	_
40	call	call	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	9	conj	_	_
41	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	40	obj	_	_
42	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	44	det	_	_
43	Axial	axial	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	44	amod	_	_
44	Age	age	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	40	xcomp	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=40:obl:unmarked|HaikuPos=NOUN:NN:Number=Sing
45	while	while	SCONJ	IN	_	47	mark	_	_
46	others	other	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	47	nsubj	_	_
47	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	40	advcl	_	_
48	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	49	det	_	_
49	pattern	pattern	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	52	nsubj	_	_
50	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	52	cop	_	_
51	too	too	ADV	RB	_	52	advmod	_	_
52	neat	neat	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	47	ccomp	_	_
53	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	9	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **live** | past | great thinkers |  |  | China and India and Persia and Israel and Greece |  | between 800; among Confucius and the Buddha and Socrates | vn lodge-46 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Theme in china=Location |
| 2 | **not** **know** | past · do-support | thinkers *= thinker* | each |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V NP PP.attribute»: agent=Experiencer each=Stimulus |
| 3 | **call** | present | some historians | this |  |  |  |  | vn initiate\_communication-37.4.2-1 «NP V NP.recipient»: agent=Agent this=Recipient |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | others |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 5 | **is** | present | the pattern |  |  |  |  | neat *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R3-conj-first ×1, R7-rel-agree ×3. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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