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title: If the ones that came and the end are known, the start is the end ta… — Some more join in: how many came, how many at fi… · tree and pragmatics
description: If the ones that came and the end are known, the start is the end take away the ones that came: 4 came, 12 now, so 12 - 4 = 8 at first. Who acts: ones, start, you, 4. A sentence of the lesson «Some more join in: how many came, how many at first» of the lessons course of Mova's primary school with it
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# Some more join in: how many came, how many at first, sentence 2

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If the ones that came and the end are known, the start is the end take away the ones that came: 4 came, 12 now, so 12 - 4 = 8 at first.

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**Who acts:** ones, start, you, 4 · **What happens:** come, know, be, take away · **To what, where:** ones, end

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Some more join in: how many came, how many at first» of the lessons course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (ones, start, you, 4), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:lessons:072-join-change-start-unknown.lesson:2
# text = If the ones that came and the end are known, the start is the end take away the ones that came: 4 came, 12 now, so 12 - 4 = 8 at first.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = lessons
# lesson = 072-join-change-start-unknown.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1
1	If	if	SCONJ	IN	_	10	mark	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	ones	one	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	10	nsubj:pass	_	_
4	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	5	nsubj	_	_
5	came	come	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	acl:relcl	_	_
6	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	8	cc	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	end	end	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	conj	_	_
9	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	10	aux:pass	_	_
10	known	know	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	17	advcl	_	_
11	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
13	start	start	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	16	nsubj	_	_
14	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	cop	_	_
15	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	end	end	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	17	parataxis	_	_
17	take	take	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
18	away	away	ADP	RP	_	17	compound:prt	_	_
19	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	20	det	_	_
20	ones	one	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	17	obj	_	_
21	that	that	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	22	nsubj	_	_
22	came	come	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	20	acl:relcl	_	_
23	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	24	punct	_	_
24	4	4	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	25	nsubj	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=22:obl
25	came	come	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	22	conj	_	_
26	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
27	12	12	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	17	obl:unmarked	_	_
28	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	27	advmod	_	_
29	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	31	punct	_	_
30	so	so	ADV	RB	_	31	advmod	_	_
31	12	12	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	17	parataxis	_	_
32	-	-	SYM	SYM	ExtPos=ADP	33	case	_	_
33	4	4	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	31	nmod	_	_
34	=	=	SYM	SYM	_	35	case	_	_
35	8	8	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	31	nmod	_	_
36	at	at	ADP	IN	_	37	case	_	_
37	first	first	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Ord	31	obl	_	_
38	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	17	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **come** | past | the ones and the end |  |  |  |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **know** *a condition, not said to happen* | present · passive |  | the ones and the end |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V NP PP.attribute»: subject=Stimulus |
| 3 | **is a** | present | the start | the end |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **take away** | imperative | you *not said here* | the ones |  |  |  | 12 *obl:unmarked* | vn remove-10.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent one=Theme |
| 5 | **come** | past | the ones |  |  |  |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 6 | **come** | past | 4 |  |  |  |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:lessons:072-join-change-start-unknown.lesson:2`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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