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title: Some say people out of work should get more help; others say too muc… — Unemployment: when jobs are lost · tree and pragmatics
description: Some say people out of work should get more help; others say too much help means less need to find work; both want people to be okay but disagree on how. Who acts: Some, people, others, much help. A sentence of the lesson «Unemployment: when jobs are lost» of the money course of Mova's primary schoo
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# Unemployment: when jobs are lost, sentence 16

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Some say people out of work should get more help; others say too much help means less need to find work; both want people to be okay but disagree on how.

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**Who acts:** Some, people, others, much help, both · **What happens:** say, get, mean, find, want, be · **To what, where:** more help, less need, work, people · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Unemployment: when jobs are lost» of the money course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Some, people, others, much help), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:money:035-unemployment-when-jobs-are-lost.lesson:16
# text = Some say people out of work should get more help; others say too much help means less need to find work; both want people to be okay but disagree on how.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = money
# lesson = 035-unemployment-when-jobs-are-lost.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	2	nsubj	_	_
2	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	_
4	out	out	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
5	of	of	ADP	IN	_	6	case	_	_
6	work	work	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nmod	_	_
7	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	8	aux	_	_
8	get	get	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	ccomp	_	_
9	more	more	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	10	amod	_	_
10	help	help	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	obj	_	_
11	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
12	others	other	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	13	nsubj	_	_
13	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	parataxis	_	_
14	too	too	ADV	RB	_	15	advmod	_	_
15	much	much	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	16	amod	_	_
16	help	help	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	17	nsubj	_	_
17	means	mean	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	ccomp	_	_
18	less	less	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	19	amod	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=19:advmod|HaikuPos=ADV:RBR:Degree=Cmp
19	need	need	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	17	obj	_	_
20	to	to	PART	TO	_	21	mark	_	_
21	find	find	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	19	acl	_	_
22	work	work	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	obj	_	_
23	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	25	punct	_	_
24	both	both	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	25	nsubj	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=25:nsubj|HaikuPos=PRON:CC:_
25	want	want	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	parataxis	_	_
26	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	25	obj	_	_
27	to	to	PART	TO	_	29	mark	_	_
28	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	29	cop	_	_
29	okay	okay	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	25	xcomp	_	_
30	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	31	cc	_	_
31	disagree	disagree	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	25	conj	_	_
32	on	on	ADP	IN	_	33	case	_	_
33	how	how	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	31	advmod	_	_
34	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | Some |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **get** | should | people out work | more help |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer help=Stimulus |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | others |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 4 | **mean** | present | much help | less need |  |  |  |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent need=Topic |
| 5 | **find** | to-infinitive | much help *not said here* | work |  |  |  |  | vn discover-84 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent work=Topic |
| 6 | **want** | present | both | people |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADJ»: agent=Pivot people=Theme |
| 7 | **is** *not said to happen* | to-infinitive | people *not said here* |  |  |  |  | okay *property* | tree rules |
| 8 | **disagree** | present | both *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:money:035-unemployment-when-jobs-are-lost.lesson:16`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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